Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 23

Thread: Is it within executive power to grant amnesty?

  1. #11
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    8,525
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by BBossman View Post
    The best he can do "legally" is issue an executive order interpreting how an existing law will be enforced. Whether it is legal doesn't matter, because until it is challenged, the federal machine will have its marching orders. It would then need to be challenged in court similar to the chatter about the lawsuit concerning the full enactment of Obamacare. How long does it take for a lawsuit like that to march through the courts? Meanwhile the damage continues...
    The problem with him winging it and saying they have amnesty of some sort is that if/when it gets to the courts I can picture them saying "Well, he did not have the authority to do that but it wouldn't be fair to revoke their citizenship just because he made a mistake and overreached." Kind of like a "from this point forward" type of thing and meanwhile the damage has been done by legalizing millions of new Democrat voters.
    Last edited by ABNAK; 07-31-14 at 16:35.
    11C2P '83-'87
    Airborne Infantry

  2. #12
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Wakanda
    Posts
    18,863
    Feedback Score
    4 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    I worry we've reached a point where if we shut down the borders or begin mass deportations, I would be surprised to see terror attacks and possibly even a civil war. That'll come eventually, when many of these illegal immigrants, who obviously don't care much for our laws, decide that instead of taking advantage of this country, they want to try and take it over.
    And we might reach the point where if we don't shut down the borders and begin mass deportations we'll see Revolution/Civil War 2.0 . . .
    "In a nut shell, if it ever goes to Civil War, I'm afraid I'll be in the middle 70%, shooting at both sides" — 26 Inf


    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon 10/30/18

  3. #13
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    7,152
    Feedback Score
    4 (100%)
    Looks like he can and probably will. Oddly enough here is Ed Schultz on MSNBC expressing his sincere frustration with the plan, stating that Americans won't like it and also that if Republicans regain the senate in November then impeachment becomes a real possibility.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._to_solve.html
    "Facit Omina Voluntas = The Will Decides" - Army Chief


  4. #14
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    NW Florida
    Posts
    2,553
    Feedback Score
    41 (98%)
    Quote Originally Posted by Safetyhit View Post
    Looks like he can and probably will. Oddly enough here is Ed Schultz on MSNBC expressing his sincere frustration with the plan, stating that Americans won't like it and also that if Republicans regain the senate in November then impeachment becomes a real possibility.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._to_solve.html
    Hell would freeze over a dozen times before a Senate with only 51 or so Republicans removes Barack Obama from office.

  5. #15
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    3,178
    Feedback Score
    5 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by Palmguy View Post
    Hell would freeze over a dozen times before a Senate with only 51 or so Republicans removes Barack Obama from office.
    Ding ding. Osama ain't going to get impeached unless he does something so outrageous that it pisses of even the most restated of his supporters. Even if the RINO's were to to keep the house and gain a super majority in the senate an impeachment would mean death in the next election cycle. The Dems would play the racist victim role and get back in power.

    The best tactic for the Rino's is to win both houses and castrate this dumbass through legislative action. If they can gain enough consensus to over ride his vetos his policies can be nullified via new laws. Not ideal mind you as I don't trust the Rino's either, but it's the best way to do it.

  6. #16
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    655
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Yeah, I know that is a fact unfortunately. But the question is can he legally grant citizenship/amnesty by himself?
    No, he cannot. That would require him to actually change the law, which is the job of congress. Will he do it anyway? Probably. The executive branch has swelled in power to an absurd point.

  7. #17
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    OUTPOST 31
    Posts
    10,406
    Feedback Score
    30 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by Safetyhit View Post
    Looks like he can and probably will. Oddly enough here is Ed Schultz on MSNBC expressing his sincere frustration with the plan, stating that Americans won't like it and also that if Republicans regain the senate in November then impeachment becomes a real possibility.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._to_solve.html
    But if he doesn't do it he risks losing much of the Hispanic vote come 2016.
    “Answer The Bell...” J.W.

  8. #18
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    8,525
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    But if he doesn't do it he risks losing much of the Hispanic vote come 2016.
    No he doesn't. Since Jimmy Carter days the Dems have had 2 out of 3 Hispanic votes (on average). The highest for Dems was the 1988 election, which happened to be the one right after the amnesty Reagan signed in 1986 (!). Go figure. Guess the Republican opinion that amnesty will buy them votes is a farce, huh? Bottom line is nothing is going to cost the Dems the Hispanic vote.
    11C2P '83-'87
    Airborne Infantry

  9. #19
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Idaho
    Posts
    1,843
    Feedback Score
    0
    What ever it takes to bring the U.S.A down to a third world country. The Bushes couldn't do it nor Bill Clinton. Hillary hasn't had her chance to usher the New World order though, Hillary 2016.

  10. #20
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Wyoming
    Posts
    1,490
    Feedback Score
    1 (100%)
    No. That's not administrating, that's legislating.

    But if the political system can't deal with the problem...very bad news.

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •