NYC Mayor DeBlasio Caves To Sharpton In Shameful Fashion After Threat

[glocktogo]

My first thought was "Why a chokehold to effect an arrest?" My second thought was "Meh, it's NYC, a place I wouldn't be caught dead in."

Someone feel free to post up when this happens in a relevant jurisdiction.

[Safetyhit]

To show how warped the whole scenario is the man who shot the incriminating video, a career criminal himself, was arrested days later after he was witnessed concealing a handgun he had on a woman he had just sold drugs to. He then told his wife to call Al Sharpton right away, who promptly ignored him.


"The man who videotaped a Staten Island cop using a deadly chokehold told his own wife to “call Al Sharpton” when he was busted on gun charges over the weekend, The Post has learned.

Ramsey Orta, 22, a convicted felon with a lengthy rap sheet, phoned his wife after his Saturday night arrest and instructed her to contact the activist minister — in an apparent bid to help get himself sprung, law-enforcement sources said.
“I got arrested. Call Al Sharpton right away!” Orta said, according to the sources."

http://nypost.com/2014/08/03/sharpto...itness-arrest/

[Bulletdog]

Here's a good insight into how delusional they are. Just had to do a piece on this for a class I'm taking.

That was absolute drivel. I forced myself to get all the way through it. How many thousands of hours has that idiot of a woman spent contemplating that non-sense and attempting to find ways to blame the mis-deeds of individuals on the evil white establishment? Insanity I tell ya'.

[Moose-Knuckle]

If I'm correct, this would not be the first time that an ME has gone rogue with their findings. There was another case where a patient died of a heart attack in a busy emergency department waiting room and the cause of death was labeled a homicide by the ME because of the wait. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story?id=2458644

I had an ME pull this on me once with an in custody death, he kept going back and fourth then FINALLY decide the subject died due to copious amounts of metabolized cocaine in his system and not the arm bar/wrist lock I had him in on the ground.

[grunz]

Not a fan of the fact that a US citizen died because of an incident that started because of his crime of him selling cigarettes without contributing money to the nanny state system. Also not a fan of the fact that this incident somehow caused about 15 LEO between undercover, uniformed patrol and suited detectives to show up as if it was some major terror incident... Too many cops with too little to do, apparently... Also it's pretty shameful that people are bashing the guy who video taped it because he's lowlife type, as if that makes the video any less credible. I'm sure you would all insist that any video of your loved ones being killed would be irrelevant and inadmissible in court unless it was taken by a camera held by a virginal, church going Eagle Scout...

[Safetyhit]

Not a fan of the fact that a US citizen died because of an incident that started because of his crime of him selling cigarettes without contributing money to the nanny state system. Also not a fan of the fact that this incident somehow caused about 15 LEO between undercover, uniformed patrol and suited detectives to show up as if it was some major terror incident... Too many cops with too little to do, apparently... Also it's pretty shameful that people are bashing the guy who video taped it because he's lowlife type, as if that makes the video any less credible. I'm sure you would all insist that any video of your loved ones being killed would be irrelevant and inadmissible in court unless it was taken by a camera held by a virginal, church going Eagle Scout...

Who here do you believe is "a fan" of a man having died? Why the spin, you just don't like police in general perhaps? How about this revelation; don't take your ass out on the street and overtly break the same law you're known to break over and over in a crime ridden area where tensions run high and your documented medical condition puts you in harms way when you tell the police you don't deserve to be arrested.


To add to the circus apparently someone in the department is passing around new ID's of Al Sharpton as police commissioner.

" A mock-up Police Department ID card featuring a picture of the Rev. Al Sharpton under the title "Police Commissioner" has been making the rounds among city cops.

Cops upset over what they perceive as the civil rights activist's sway over the mayor in the wake of Eric Garner's chokehold death have shared the fake ID on email and posted it on Twitter.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...#ixzz39XEqMQXf

[RancidSumo]

I am glad action is being taken on this. The guy was killed for selling untaxed cigarettes. I refuse to even recognize that as a crime. If police have nothing better to do than harass people for selling loose smokes then it is time to start laying off cops.

Additionally, the EMS did nothing to help the guy, they are almost as guilty as the cops who put him in a choke hold and pressed him into the ground. The EMTs/paramedics should be fired and the cops should be in jail.

ETA: I just read an article that pointed out the cop who killed Garner has been previously named in civil rights violations including illegally stopping a car and strip searching people. Why the hell was he not fired a long time ago?

[grunz]

Who here do you believe is "a fan" of a man having died? Why the spin, you just don't like police in general perhaps? How about this revelation; don't take your ass out on the street and overtly break the same law you're known to break over and over in a crime ridden area where tensions run high and your documented medical condition puts you in harms way when you tell the police you don't deserve to be arrested.

Individual cops don't operate in a vacuum, they and their departments follow the orders given to them by city and PD leaders and they exist in an atmosphere and mindset set by that leadership and training. Somewhere in that chain it became OK for this type of confrontation to occur over a nanny-state pointless crime (untaxed cigarettes) and a man died. This is unacceptable, 10X, 100% ****ing unsat for free citizen of the USA to die like this.... Also, what possibly tactical reason did over dozen cops have to show up at the scene even before the guys died? I'm sure they were altered about a big TIC, and rushed in to save their buddies under fire, oh wait wrong AO.... This is what I'm against, the big trend by sate and local governments to make almost anything a crime and enforce that shit as if every LEO/citizen interaction is a life or death dramatic affair.. Change needs to be made at teh top.

This is simply overbearing police/nanny state micromanaging bullshit and I'm shocked anybody here could possibly support it.

The point that resonated with me deeply is when the soon to bead dead guy said "JUST LEAVE ME ALONE." Kinda like "DONT TREAD ON ME"..... Isn't it? Shit like this, overbearing,violent enforcement, of IDIOTIC laws by a government that is detached from the governed caused the USA to rebel against the UK... Maybe it's time for some indians to start dumping tabbaco in NYC harbor.... Of course I'm sure they would shot down like dogs by a SWAT team from the Environmentental Protection Agency, because you know the EPA probably has a SWAT team by now like half the other governmenet departments...

And more of the same, overbearing overly aggressive enforcemnt of dumb laws. https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...-Clean-Air-Act

[Chameleox]

Some history is in order. In this case, the groundwork for this event came from "the top".

NYPDs aggressive enforcement of low level offenses, like street level dealing, hawkers, graffiti, panhandling, and even secondhand selling of taxable items comes from the zero tolerance model that was implemented during Bratton's first tenure. It's an offshoot of the "broken windows" model, that argues that enforcing minor code and criminal violations, hand in hand with stakeholders and property owners taking ownership of their community, results in an atmosphere that limits the growth of criminality. There's some merit to this, but some of the minor ordinances can be considered "nanny-state" ish.

It's definitely a sad turn of events when someone is killed. No doubt about it. And it is made all the more worse that this was ultimately over a relatively small infraction. My question is, at what point in the deceased's previous arrests and prosecutions did he argue that the law was at issue? When did he lobby his local reps to repeal the law? Did Al Sharpton even hold a march to repeal the tax, arguing that selling looseys was a legitimate source of income for inner city residents?

[Sensei]

http://nypost.com/2014/07/20/4-ems-w...okehold-death/

The new video in this article is going to be a big problem for the city and the paramedic involved. Granted, I'm looking at a video, but the deceased does not appear to be breathing at any point in the video. I realize that one officer addresses the cameraman that the deceased was indeed breathing, but I saw no evidence of chest movement and the patient remained unresponsive throughout the taped encounter. Over 3 minutes elapse with EMS at his side and no care was provided.

I suspect that the initial reports to the paramedics was that he was conscious and breathing. This would explain why the paramedic walked up to him and tried to talk to him. The problem is that her brain never made that switch to high gear when what she was seeing was far worse that what she expected. Many aspects contribute to negative inertia such as a difficult exam in an obese patient, but I would expect a more rapid realization from an experienced paramedic.