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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    The BAD Lever was originally designed to help clear type 3 malfunctions faster (as you would normally need to switch hands to lock the bolt to the rear). It SECONDARY function was to be able to drop the bolt with your trigger finger. With the invention of the anti-tilt followers and PMAGS, the number of "double feeds" dropped NOTICEABLY. So much so that I have not seen this malfunction in an AR (that is using these types of mags or followers) in a very long time. So Magpul effectively null and voided their own product IMHO.

    I have installed these onto perfectly working AR's and they stopped being able to lock the bolt back on the last round. I have seen TONS of people screw up reloads (dropping the bolt before the mag is fully inserted) and all kinds of other odd malfunctions.

    IMHO, as the BAD lever hangs on your bolt catch, the spring keeping it "down" becomes weaker and weaker. So if the BAD lever works in your gun, it might all of the sudden not keep working.

    The question that people need to ask themselves, is how much faster am I with it than without. Pull out the trusty shot timer and see for yourself. My guess is that you will find there is little advantage to it.

    YMMV.

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    Pretty much sums it up. I was so used to a standard configuration that it actually hindered my ability to manipulate the rifle controls. I found myself releasing the bolt before I was able to reload a fresh magazine.

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    This is an interesting discussion. I'm relatively new to the AR platform and it just seems so much more natural to me to drop the bolt using my trigger finger rather than smack the left side of the gun two or three times with my palm. I'll definitely be a lot more cognizant of an impending failure with it though after reading all of this.

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    I have a couple of these BAD levers from Magpul. I never experienced a problem yet.

    I plan on purchasing another for my son's 15/22. From what I read it does not fit well without some Dremel work on the lower. I plan on modifying the cheaper part (BAD Lever) via heat from the oxy/acetylene torch and bend it whatever way.

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    It's sort of helpful on a precision ar shot from the prone as you can reload without breaking your position nearly as much. But I don't think it's worth the potential headaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcoz View Post
    This is an interesting discussion. I'm relatively new to the AR platform and it just seems so much more natural to me to drop the bolt using my trigger finger rather than smack the left side of the gun two or three times with my palm. I'll definitely be a lot more cognizant of an impending failure with it though after reading all of this.
    I'm pretty sure if a BAD type lever was incorporated at inception in the AR platform there would be no problem as it would have been apart of the manual of arms from the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcoz View Post
    This is an interesting discussion. I'm relatively new to the AR platform and it just seems so much more natural to me to drop the bolt using my trigger finger rather than smack the left side of the gun two or three times with my palm. I'll definitely be a lot more cognizant of an impending failure with it though after reading all of this.
    Please seek professional training as this is not how you release the bolt catch.




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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Please seek professional training as this is not how you release the bolt catch.




    C4
    Actually I was being facetious. Long story...... I did attempt that procedure a few times at the beginning and quickly found it unreliable and slow. I started using my thumb to depress the release paddle after inserting a new mag. Due to severe arthritis in my fingers and thumbs, that didn't work as well for me as the BAD lever does.

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    I've used BAD levers on all my AR's without a single issue. For me, it really does speed up reloads and dealing with malfunctions.

    I have seen one AR have issues locking the bolt to the rear with a BAD lever installed while using magpul 20 round magazines. It would work fine with any 30 round mag, or by removing the BAD lever.

    Now, I can see how there could be issues when one has to use their duty weapon and may not be authorized to install a BAD lever and continually trains with one on a personal weapon. I've found myself searching for the lever during qualification with my issue weapon. However, I don't see it as a deal breaker as these days I only see that rifle maybe twice a year. If I was using the duty weapon day in, day out, my opinion would probably change.

    Personnaly, I like them and see them as a benefit.

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