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Thread: Teacher Shows Up Intoxicated, Without Pants, On Very First day On The Job!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    If the arresting officer cannot place her behind the wheel, i.e. testify to the fact that he/she observed Pizza the Hutt operating a motor vehicle and or a witness then no DA is going to waste their limited time and resources on a Class B Misdemeanor.
    I'm not sure how it works where you live but in my county (Duval, Jacksonville FL) I have seen a few easily beatable DUI's get plead out in my courtroom. (I work the 1st appearance courtroom. Everybody that got arrested from 9am this morning until 9am tomorrow will be in my courtroom.) The defendants always focus on the "I get outta jail today?" part and tend not to pay attention to the 6 months probation, license suspension and thousands of dollars in fines part.

    Not being argumentative with you Moose, just stating what I've personally seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big A View Post
    I'm not sure how it works where you live but in my county (Duval, Jacksonville FL) I have seen a few easily beatable DUI's get plead out in my courtroom. (I work the 1st appearance courtroom. Everybody that got arrested from 9am this morning until 9am tomorrow will be in my courtroom.) The defendants always focus on the "I get outta jail today?" part and tend not to pay attention to the 6 months probation, license suspension and thousands of dollars in fines part.

    Not being argumentative with you Moose, just stating what I've personally seen.
    Oh I don't think you are being argumentative. Where I work our officers will not arrest anyone on DWI unless they can put them behind the wheel (or via witness). They will scoop them up for PI however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chameleox View Post
    Maybe I was being vague, but my post was in reference to another that was wondering if pursuing an OWI was a stretch. I never meant to suggest that this was enough for arrest. It isn't. Look at my follow up posts. However, an inference based on what the officers apparently saw is enough to look at a possible OWI. If I was vague, I apologize. And yes, it is possible to find PC for DUI without the officers actually seeing her drive. It's not easy, and it is rare.
    It was a stetch in the sense of it was a fishing expedition to find something else, something more severe. Why? Just to be a prick? She wasn't found behind the wheel so why try to fernagle a backdoor way to hang her out further?

    Let's say you're shooting on private land and the owner calls the cops. You're arrested for trespassing (probably about as severe as PI). You've been had, you're guilty of trespassing. Your shooting could have caused injury to the owner or his family, but it didn't (just like her allegedly driving there drunk could have harmed someone but didn't). So, in the quest to nail you to the wall the cops want to get into your gun safe to see if any of your stuff is illegal (short barrel, FA, whatever). Judge says no way to that warrant. Was this a stretch? Of course it was. Was it "related" to shooting? Yeah, kinda. About as much as her being PI and pantless in school is "related" to possibly driving there drunk.

    That is why I think it was a stretch to do nothing more than nail her fat ass to the wall even more. I think that's bullshit to even try despite the evidence that wasn't there to charge anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caduceus View Post
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    Oh for ****'s sake, who hasn't shown up drunk for work without their pants?

    But, damn, I hope that's mostly water bloat from the margarita salt.

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    I wonder what the percentage of is of teachers is who make it through their first 5 years are. My kids are entering 2nd grade and so far, of teachers we know, one had a mental breakdown and didn't show up for work one day. Or the day after. And just quit in essence. Another, after obtaining a masters, taught one year and quit. Wasn't for her. No idea what she's doing for a job now. The one with the breakdown got hired the next year in another district.

    By far the best teachers we have had had been on the job for 10+ years and still had a lot of enthusiasm in the class. Last year we had one like that and another new teacher. The new teacher was noticeably worse in every way and I doubt she lasts. Having twins we get two teachers in the same grade every year so it's very easy for us to compare and contrast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIDE View Post
    The fast track to unemployment benefits.
    UNION??? Government employee ??? Probably no one told her about wearing pants on the job. Besides another hot government employee in Texas. Yee Haa I gots to move to Texas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peshawar View Post
    Alcoholism sucks. Hope she gets help.
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