Rand Paul Is Looking Like Our Ticket Out Of This Mess And The Left Knows It

[Safetyhit]

While I have disagreed with his previous isolationist stances Rand Paul has shown some flexibility on this issue when placed on the spot. To most like me this is critical because it is very possible he will become the Republican candidate in the 2016 election and if he does there is good reason coming from the left to believe he can win. As we hoped would happen when the government went too far it collapsed upon itself and much to the dismay of progressives this has resonated with the young. Maybe our finest hour will be the one after the darkest, but if not at the very least we have hope.

Heard and watched several examples of this sort of thing recently and it's very encouraging, these two are just from today. Not worth a ton now but still worth noting at the very least since these (MSNBC and The Daily Beast) are far left sources:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._paul_fan.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...s-enemy-1.html

[brickboy240]

While I would love to see Rand Paul get the nod...I seriously doubt that will happen if the biggies that run the RNC have anything to do with it.

The "establishment" GOP does not like Rand Paul...or Ted Cruz...or any other "Tea Party" types. Karl Rove and his ilk are actively working to thwart any Tea Party types in upcoming elections. Look at what they did in MS to keep ol' Thad Cochran around!

The people that run the RNC are not in Paul's camp at all. They don't want to lead, change or reform a damn thing. They will most likely run some milk sap loser like Christie or Jeb Bush and lose once again. All along the way...getting tripped up on questions about rape, abortion and gay marriage.

The media will make sure this will happen. Remember...they even helped Obama during a debate! When you control the media...you control the messaging. It does not matter how in the crapper the economy is or how many illegal invaders are now living in your city...no sir!

Rand Paul might indeed be our "favorite" (I tend to think it is Cruz) but I would not hold my breath on the GOP nominating this guy no matter how many people want him.

Nope..the GOP primary will be "decided" by two states that don't have that many residents and don't really contribute tons to the US economy (IA and NH). This whole system should be changed! Why should a state that creates less than 5% of the new private sector jobs in America (NH) pick the candidate for a state that created almost half of all new private sector jobs in America last year (TX)?

-brickboy240

[Belmont31R]

I tend to agree that the RNC will not let a limited gov guy get nominated, and if by chance one is, they already have a fail safe to be able to override the state electoral votes at the convention. The RNC is just as reliant on the big gov system of corruption and kickbacks as the Dems are and limited gov is kryptonite to both big parties.

[austinN4]

I tend to agree that the RNC will not let a limited gov guy get nominated, and if by chance one is, they already have a fail safe to be able to override the state electoral votes at the convention. The RNC is just as reliant on the big gov system of corruption and kickbacks as the Dems are and limited gov is kryptonite to both big parties.

So what is the answer? Seriously.

[brickboy240]

Also the RNC will, no doubt, feel emboldened to run another McCain/Romney type after Thad Cochran and a few other establishment types won their primaries (...even if they do so by the hair on the chin).

The RNC seems perfectly happy to be a permanent minority party and don't mind being tripped up by big media on the issues of homos and abortion.

I know...we all keep wishing and hoping that the GOP "learns its lesson" on what we want but the truth is they really don't care what we want. they will talk about freedom, small business, capitalism, conservative values and shrinking govt. but that is only a play to sucker voters that have not figured them out yet.

...still think we don't need a third party?

-brickboy240

[glocktogo]

So what is the answer? Seriously.

Vote EVERY "senior" GOP politician out of office. We're not going to get the change we need until the dinosaurs are extinct.

FWIW, that's the answer on the other side of the aisle as well.

[austinN4]

Vote EVERY "senior" GOP politician out of office. We're not going to get the change we need until the dinosaurs are extinct.

FWIW, that's the answer on the other side of the aisle as well.

I'm good with that, but don't believe the necessary majority to do so is. So if I am right, and that is the only answer, we are screwed.

[brickboy240]

A little more Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and a little less Thad Cochran and Jonh McCain.

Unfortunately, this takes time....time I am not sure we have left.

[Belmont31R]

So what is the answer? Seriously.

People in states that elect the RNC/GOP leadership need to vote them out. Virginia got one out this year but the rest of them can't control the party if they get the boot.

We probably need to change the way the primaries are carried out. By the time the largest red state gets to vote the field has already been narrowed down by liberal states. The last two elections we got to vote for McCain and then McCain or Romney. Two of the most 'progressive Republicans' that ran. As of now the primary circuit favors candidates who are left leaning and into things like huge farm subsidies.

When important issues come up that our reps vote for, like Speaker, people need to hammer them before the vote comes up. My rep voted for Boehner and I voted against him because of that as well as other issues. He still won (Carter is well liked in this area) but nothing is going to change if we keep sending the same people back that keep the machine running.

If you donate, donate to candidates and not the RNC. When Cantor lost the local GOP donated a lot of their money up to the RNC instead of helping out the guy who won. Don't let your money go to the RNC/GOP because they'll not fund anyone who doesn't toe the line. They've actually spent more money trying to defeat fellow right wing Republicans than Dems.

I'm not even sure the right wing of the party can ever take over the GOP but it's really up to the voters. There's a great Cato podcast that addresses many of these issues. http://feeds.cato.org/~r/CatoEventPo...ll-freedom-win

Libertarians need to do more to get their message out and the podcast explains a lot of the different dynamics involved within the GOP. I think a first good step is to stop believing that only the left leaning side of the party is electable. There are a lot of younger voters who share many ideals with libertarians but the GOP is highly resistant to adopting things like a change in how drugs are dealt with, Internet freedom & NSA/privacy issues, and personal liberty at large. Obama promised a lot of those things and of course was lying or changed his tune but the GOP has always been about corporate interests first. They're facing a changing demographic that is causing their traditional voters to age out and become less popular. Time to change the tune some and that means going after younger voters as well as losing some of the old ways. That doesn't mean going further left as has happened but as I said there is appeal to younger people in their 20's and 30's to the libertarian side of things which the GOP has heavily rejected and fought.

[austinN4]

A little more Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and a little less Thad Cochran and Jonh McCain.

Unfortunately, this takes time....time I am not sure we have left.

It also takes a majority of voters.