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Thread: James Brady's death ruled a homicide from 1981 shooting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kain View Post
    But 30+ years after the fact? Trust me, if it was a year, two years or one or two more and the guy was a veggie or in a comma then sure, fry the MFer who was the trigger man. But 30 years and functioning, at least somewhat, at the very least I kind of have to call this one as I see it which is to say BS. And worse yet, political bullshit. Does this mean that when my uncle dies I his widow can claim he died from wounds suffered as a marine during Nam and get the benefits from that? I don't want to sound like I am calling you out, I know where you are coming from trust me, but I just can't see how this can be ruled a homicide given what we know here now(I say this because there is a chance, albeit small, that there was a bullet, bone, soul frag, ect (ETA wound never healing at which piont I question how he lived 30+ years)and work its way to the brain or the heart and caused the death at which point I again would say there is reason.) Though, again being 30+ years after the fact I think you might have a better chance at claiming medical malpractice for the doctor not catching the issue beforehand since they had ample time to catch it than the shooter.

    EX: Are we going to re-rule Reagan's death a homicide since he was injured too during the shooting?


    I don't want to delete everything I just typed(because I feel I am not perfectly clear and other issues, like I am too focused on you and I shouldn't be) but I just think it might be stretching things saying 30 years later a person's death is a homicide because they were injured in a shooting 30 years ago WITHOUT information of that being the cause. And, again, I want to make clear, I am not calling you out, because I know exactly where you are coming from on this, but 30 years is a stretch in my opinion for this baring other information.

    That said, if you have precedent of where this has happened before I am all ears, both in this regard and from a professional and academic standpoint and would love to hear it, trust me. Because, while I am aware of deaths related to injuries after weeks, or even months, being ruled homicides, I have never heard of one involving decades.



    P.S.
    I hope I am making sense.
    If you want to take it to PM I'll clear out the box. Because I have had a few(See previous post, and no I can't offer you any since the bottle is now empty), but short of other evidence it just appears to me to be a bit politically motivated. Maybe I am coming from this from the standpoint I don't want to be a political rally point. I don't know.

    Here's one where the kid died 2 years after being shot

    http://voices.suntimes.com/news/brea...fter-shooting/

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    Wasn't he in a coma the whole time ? The one you just linked to about the kid two years later

    Show me 3 where it was 20 years later after they went back to living then died of old age natural causes and they decided to go back to a accident

    Yes shot or car accident never wake from coma it's most likely the cause this was not the case

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCPatrolAR View Post
    Most people go with a political angle instead of a logical one when democrats are involved
    The man lived 33 MORE YEARS to the age of 73! Hell, that's probably longer than I'll last with no one shooting me! If they can release the autopsy and prove that it was a ruptured vessel within the wound channel that was obviously weakened by the bullet, I'll buy it. Absolutely nothing less makes ANY sense whatsoever.

    In this specific case, political angle is currently the only logical answer. Occam's razor would suggest politics in this matter as well, absent specific and compelling evidence otherwise.
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    The same thing happens when law enforcement statistics are compiled. If an officer is injured, and that somehow contributes to his death years later, then he is included in the officers killed in the line of duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    The man lived 33 MORE YEARS to the age of 73! Hell, that's probably longer than I'll last with no one shooting me! If they can release the autopsy and prove that it was a ruptured vessel within the wound channel that was obviously weakened by the bullet, I'll buy it. Absolutely nothing less makes ANY sense whatsoever.

    In this specific case, political angle is currently the only logical answer. Occam's razor would suggest politics in this matter as well, absent specific and compelling evidence otherwise.
    I'm sure she will get a big payout as well. This is the Liberal mind at work. I wonder if they MA conventions, perhaps this one can give a speech to his peers as to how he came to his conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCPatrolAR View Post
    Here's one where the kid died 2 years after being shot

    http://voices.suntimes.com/news/brea...fter-shooting/
    Brady was 73 years old. It would not be unusual for someone of that age to simply die of natural causes. A 15 year old boy, on the other hand, would be a lot less likely to naturally die at that age.

    Given the additional significant difference between the event and their death -- 33 years vs 2 -- I just don't see that there is any logical parallel to be drawn between the two.

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    As an example: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...ies-2012/#Ohio

    On January 23, a former police officer with the Akron Police Department died as the result of a gunshot wound received while conducting an armed robbery investigation. At 3:20 a.m. on April 10, 1965, the officer, who was 25 years old and had almost 2 years of law enforcement experience at the time of the incident, was with another officer and a police reserve officer when they stopped a vehicle during their investigation. Shortly thereafter, both officers and the reserve officer were found shot and lying on the pavement. The three victim officers were transported to the hospital, where one officer was pronounced dead and the other officers were treated. Although these two officers survived, their injuries were permanently disabling. The 25-year-old suspect, who had an extensive criminal history including violent crime and weapons violations, was arrested. Since one officer died on the day of the incident, the suspect was charged with First-Degree Murder of a Law Enforcement Officer and was sentenced to life in prison. The former police officer who survived the initial attack continuously struggled with serious health complications of long-term quadriplegia due to the gunshot wound to the neck/throat that he sustained. According to the chief medical examiner, the injuries received during the incident were considered a contributing factor to his death, which occurred nearly 47 years later.

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    I'm just a bit young for this. Who was James Brady?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidbattlecry View Post
    I'm just a bit young for this. Who was James Brady?
    White House Press Secretary under President Ronald Reagan.
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    and after Reagan.....

    http://www.bradycampaign.org/

    The people that want your guns.

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