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    I would love to speak with the shop owner to get details. We have tested the PMAG up to -30 and have seen very minimal problems. Without talking directly to the guy with the issues I can't comment. drake@magpul.com please.
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    I have some Magpuls, one of which was sort of given to me, and they are fine. Still, the number of -60 degree days in Georgia are limited until the sun goes out, so I won't be tossing my plastic mags away yet.

    But I really think the D&H mags at $9.99 are a great choice.
    If you aren't armed when you take a dump in your own home then your opinion on what is a practical daily carry weapon isn't interesting to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwhitehorne View Post
    -60 wow. I think everything man made has its temperature limits. I missed cold weather training in my unit years ago. I do remember everyone switching from CLP to LSA for the weapons. I wonder how anything works including humans in -60 degrees. I can't image that type of cold. David
    I think you mean Lubricating Oil, for Aircraft Weapons, Specification MIL-L-14107B commonly referred to as LAW. Used also as a small arms lubricant at very low temps.

    IIRC, LSA's temp range does not go as low as even CLP's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demigod View Post
    To me, this is a non issue.

    What kind of fighting is realistic in 40 below weather anyway?

    Well, if you are David Soul and Cathy Crosby trying to save the Alaskan pipeline and prevent the Soviets from starting WWIII...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    This is all true. The shop owner might have had the early gen I's.

    Tech Expos, SS, etc are generally the worst place to contact a manufacturer about a problem (as they are very busy). Much better to call them.


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    They are dark earth colored mags and are not generation 1. As for the poster who said what type of fighting is realistic at -40 well that is a a fact of life in the Fairbanks area. Their SWAT guys have had to sit outside of houses in those temperatures quite often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    Their SWAT guys have had to sit outside of houses in those temperatures quite often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDrake View Post
    I would love to speak with the shop owner to get details. We have tested the PMAG up to -30 and have seen very minimal problems. Without talking directly to the guy with the issues I can't comment. drake@magpul.com please.
    I sent you an email with his contact info. I love P mags and I hope this can get worked out and like I said it does not apply to most of the world just the cold regions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    They are dark earth colored mags and are not generation 1. As for the poster who said what type of fighting is realistic at -40 well that is a a fact of life in the Fairbanks area. Their SWAT guys have had to sit outside of houses in those temperatures quite often.
    Pat
    Got the email. I'll be following up with him. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demigod View Post
    To me, this is a non issue.

    What kind of fighting is realistic in 40 below weather anyway?
    That's right...every one of the BG's is in their igloo having a "Cold One".

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBody View Post
    Grant,

    How are D&H magazines?

    Cheers,
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    Not Grant, but I believe they are the same manufactured off of the old LaBelle tooling which was USGI. I swear by the D&H Teflon Mags as my go to Mags. I also have some Mil Spec Coated ones.

    Grant...am I correct? There's so many people stamping the LaBelle tooled Mags these days that I can't keep track. I,e., D&H, LaBelles, Brownell's etc.

    Who is the company that owns the tooling now???

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