What a mess. Why do people think because you're unarmed the police cannot shoot you?
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What a mess. Why do people think because you're unarmed the police cannot shoot you?
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The point that jumps out at me from all this is the way the MSM portrays the rioters in Fergusson versus the protestors at the Bundy Ranch. The peaceful (but well armed) protesters at the ranch were characterized as "domestic terrorists", but the actions of the violent (looting and shooting at police helicopters) protesters have been minimalized, marginalized, and even justified by the Leftists in the media.
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Because most people are stupid. Who live in thier own little bubbles and know everything about law enforcement from watching movies and TV.
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This all started Saturday afternoon, I'm surprised it just now made it here.
"Eyewitness accounts" have been varied on the initial shooting. One states that the officer shot the 18 year old in the back. Looting and violent protests have been happening not only in Ferguson where the first shooting happened, but in other areas not even adjacent to the small municipality.
Personally, I'm waiting for the ME/coroner report. It wouldn't look good if the kid was shot in the back.
Last night, 4 men armed arrived at a protest. Shots fired. Police respond. One man fled scene and fired at police, maybe a different man. They returned fire, stopped perp and recovered his handgun.
I'm a 30-40 min. drive from the initial location. No trouble has made it this far yet.
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Last edited by .46caliber; 08-13-14 at 08:05.
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Generally they can't. But when you push an officer getting out of his car back into the car, then try and go for his gun and nearly succeed in getting it, you're now attempting to murder the officer and he has the right to use deadly force to protect himself.Originally Posted by Eurodriver
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Look I don't know what happened, because I wasn't there. Hopefully whatever agency is conducting the investigation will do its job. They are reporting that this kid tried to take the officers pistol, I guess homie didn't want to take a ride?
If anyone tries to take my weapon from me (on duty or off), they have entered into a world of pain.
p.s. if this wasn't a good shoot, I hope those involved are dealt with accordingly by the legal system.
Last edited by J-Dub; 08-13-14 at 08:14.
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There was word that the FBI had shown up to investigate, but I've not heard that verified. I don't know why they would investigate a small local dept. shooting.
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Why did they look into zimmerman? The DOJ seems to get involved in things that do not require attention of such a large agency.
I will wait to see what the ME as well as the investigation finds.
Not saying its always ok, but being shot in the back is not automatically wrong.
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I listened to a report about this yesterday on NPR on the way home from work.
The gist:
It is unfair that the general public including police officers see young black men as dangerous and violent and respond with undue force against them out of fear. We are going to protest this fact by rioting, looting, and other dangerous/violent things to increase the public's fear...
That will definintely show the public that they have the wrong impression of young black men.
Won't it?
I do the same thing. When I go to engineering meetings with people up North, just to show that I am not a Redneck Hick from the South, I wear overalls, a dirty wife beater shirt, no shoes, a straw hat with a Rebel flag on it and speak in an unintelligible drawl while interspersing racist remarks in every other sentence.
Works for me all the time....
You don't change peoples minds by reinforcing stereotypes.
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I would tend to agree. No matter the final outcome, at this point all involved will come out at some loss.
My hat's off to the officers of surrounding municipalities and the County dept. who have stepped up to prevent further destruction of businesses and the community. There have also been community members who have volunteered and cleaned up some of the trashed businesses.
There's a small chain of a family owned tire and wheel shops that had a location there. It was destroyed in about an hour's time, caught on surveillance can. People showed up the next morning to cleanup and in less than 24 hours it has been cleaned and boarded up ready for reconstruction.
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