View Poll Results: All logistics aside, what do you think would be a sound M4 replacement?

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  • Improved DI 5.56 (SR-15 MOD 2)

    55 51.40%
  • Proprietary Upper/Lower Piston 6.8 SPC (LWRC Six8)

    8 7.48%
  • Piston 5.56

    18 16.82%
  • Proprietary Upper/Lower DI 6.8 SPC

    14 13.08%
  • Other (Please Specify)

    12 11.21%
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Thread: Theoretical and Completely Hypothetical M4 Replacement Poll

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    Quote Originally Posted by caporider View Post
    LWRCi developed the Six8 (specifically in the form of the UCIW), Magpul developed the 30 round Six8 PMAG, and ATK developed the 90gr Gold Dot 6.8 load for a FMS contract. They did not go "proprietary because they thought they could." Everything on the Six8 train hooks up to specific contracted specs, not to some misbegotten attempt to kickstart 6.8SPC commercial sales.
    EDITED: Forget the further derailment.

    Fact: The only things needed to use 6.8SPC ammo in the standard (non-proprietary) AR platform is a 6.8SPC barrel, 6.8SPC bolt and 6.8SPC metal magazine from any of the aforementioned manufacturers (not magpul pmags which require the use of a proprietary lower with an enlarged magwell).

    The poll is ever so slightly off...
    Last edited by ColtSeavers; 08-18-14 at 02:54. Reason: Changed my mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    The 4mm Battlerailer is already on my "Bucket List". 75 grain VLD bullet electromagnetically accelerated to 5000 feet per second from a weapon with no more weight or recoil than an M16

    Someone has had too much time on Pimp my Gun. But yes the concept would be awesome.
    I paint spaceship parts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    Stippled Glocks are like used underwear; previous owner makes all the difference in value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    The 4mm Battlerailer is already on my "Bucket List". 75 grain VLD bullet electromagnetically accelerated to 5000 feet per second from a weapon with no more weight or recoil than an M16


    So if I take a SCAR, HK, UBR, 2x MOE handguards and an AFG, I get that beast?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter22 View Post
    So if I take a SCAR, HK, UBR, 2x MOE handguards and an AFG, I get that beast?!
    ...and a very large magnet
    Last edited by MistWolf; 08-18-14 at 03:06.
    INSIDE PLAN OF BOX
    1. ROAD-RUNNER LIFTS GLASS OF WATER- PULLING UP MATCH
    2. MATCH SCRATCHES ON MATCH-BOX
    3. MATCH LIGHTS FUSE TO TNT
    4. BOOM!
    5. HA-HA!!

    -WILE E. COYOTE, AUTHOR OF "EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO KNOW IN LIFE, I LEARNED FROM GOLDBERG & MURPHY"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    Plus a couple of other secret ingredients
    Degrees in Electrical and Mechanical engineering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorphCross View Post
    Degrees in Electrical and Mechanical engineering?
    I have a PhD in BS
    INSIDE PLAN OF BOX
    1. ROAD-RUNNER LIFTS GLASS OF WATER- PULLING UP MATCH
    2. MATCH SCRATCHES ON MATCH-BOX
    3. MATCH LIGHTS FUSE TO TNT
    4. BOOM!
    5. HA-HA!!

    -WILE E. COYOTE, AUTHOR OF "EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO KNOW IN LIFE, I LEARNED FROM GOLDBERG & MURPHY"

    http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/SgtSongDog/AR%20Carbine/DSC_0114.jpg
    I am American

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    I have a PhD in BS
    Any similarity to a Liberal Arts Major?

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    6.5 Grendel in D.I. AR15 or 6.5 Creedmoor in D.I. AR10... and actually preach & teach Marksmanship & Sound Doctrine (at All Levels).

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    There is so much fail in this thread. I don't know where to begin. Half of you guys would probably be cool with us going back to the 1911 and M14.

    Mistwolf and IG appear to be maintaining order at least.
    Why do the loudest do the least?

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    For a true advantage over the M4A1, and for broader application than solely conventional units, here is what I would see being highly favorable:

    Folding stock that permits firing while folded.
    2.5 to 3 inch line of sight over bore, at 1.5 inch centerline over rail.
    Non-reciprocating CH, but with a forward-assist feature
    Completely one-handed and bilateral manipulations/stoppage reductions
    More readily barrier-blind projectiles
    Readily suppressed, with scaleable suppressors
    Works with a family of barrel lengths,most importantly with a 7 to 10 inch barrel and an 11 to 15 inch barrel.
    Recoil impulse must have neutral effect on user (straight push)
    Robust but clean trigger, in all firing modes
    Improved selector positioning
    Completely modular and user-adjustable

    Arguing about operating system is like discussing a mission to Mars and arguing about what brand of wheels to put on the rover.
    Get the f**k over it.
    The only thing I care about is "Does the gun go bang whenever I pull the trigger?". There are really smart dudes in the employ of large companies that figure out the "how" to that "what". Let them do it, or shut the f**k up and do it yourself.
    Jack Leuba
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    Knight's Armament Company
    jleuba@knightarmco.com

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