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    Quote Originally Posted by Denali View Post
    There's a video clip at the bottom of the "The Daily Mail Link" that is worth a look. It is also of poor quality, but it really doesn't need to be of high quality, the officer is clearly ambulatory, and pacing calmly back and forth, by calmly I mean slowly, confidently, strolling about with no indication of any disability, no demonstrative indications of having sustained some fairly substantial & painful injuries, at one point with both hands clearly upon his utility belt as he strolls about, again with no obvious indication of any injury to him, his motions are fluid and unhindered, a fellow officer appears by his side as they await the arrival of backup, and again no indication of any injury, or handicap, which following such an assault would be all but plainly obvious to the responding cop, who makes him no apparent offer of physical assistance. I almost wonder if its even him?
    First it is Piaget who is purporting that that is in fact Officer Wilson. As the image is out of focus, more than likely due to the fact it was taken on a tiny aperture cell phone video camera it is hard to positively identify the person who is pacing as Officer Wilson. It could have been an Officer brought on to help secure the Scene.

    Second, I'm no medical professional, so I won't comment on whether or not Officer Wilson could be ambulatory or not after allegedly suffering from a broken bone in his face. In that I would defer to anyone who specializes in facial bone trauma to answer.

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    Late last year I got into a fist fight with an armed robbery suspect in a kitchen. In the fight I ruptured a tendon in my right hand. It wasn't until several minutes later that I realized my fingers weren't working right. Didn't have very much pain because of the adrenaline from the vehicle pursuit and fight. The next day I was in a pretty good amount of pain. I needed surgery to repair the hand. Further I have been injured a few times in the Army and was able to work through the pain easily when the shit was going down.
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    As a F.F. and Rescue tech, I have arrived on several car accident scenes where the victim was ambulatory and looked normal from the distance this video was shot from. One later died from internal bleeding, the other had two broken vertebrae.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorphCross View Post
    First it is Piaget who is purporting that that is in fact Officer Wilson. As the image is out of focus, more than likely due to the fact it was taken on a tiny aperture cell phone video camera it is hard to positively identify the person who is pacing as Officer Wilson. It could have been an Officer brought on to help secure the Scene.

    Second, I'm no medical professional, so I won't comment on whether or not Officer Wilson could be ambulatory or not after allegedly suffering from a broken bone in his face. In that I would defer to anyone who specializes in facial bone trauma to answer.
    I am a medical profession and can assure you that most young, healthy people with an isolated orbital blow out fx or mandible fx are ambulatory after the injury. In fact, most professional boxers and MMA fighters will continue to fight after this injury until the eye swells shut.
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    Not sure if this has been posted.... These girls while perhaps not ideal witnesses and even somewhat unclear in their answers don't strike me as trying to create a scenario. Their voices, manners, etc...

    I still fell like some compelling piece of the puzzle is missing. For instance did others hear MB say "what are you going to do?" and actually charge him. These girls are saying there was a pretty good distance from leo and where he landed. "Joise" said he landed only a couple feet away..... Certainly that will have bearing on his reasonable actions. Even 20 feet is not far but we seem to have at least an 18 disagreement as to distance when he finally dropped. and maybe if someone is chargeing you in those circumstances, then 18 feet is too close for comfort... I don't know.

    But Trayvon Martin had it not been for an EW saying they saw him pounding on Z-man MMA style , I think Mr. Z would be in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorphCross View Post
    First it is Piaget who is purporting that that is in fact Officer Wilson.
    If you are talking about the video with two leo and the body... the guy on right kinda bald head is Wilson. That is confirmed by practically everyone. He's on right then paces off to left at one point. From that video I would never be able to tell if he was hurt or not... he doesn't look like a happy camper though and I wouldn't exactly say he's calm. He actually seems like more of a concerned even pleading at one point... like why did this happen like this... I never meant for any of this to happen. That's the feeling I get watching the silent movie.

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    I friend told me that two independent forensic pathologists found there was "no evidence of a struggle" between him and the police officer.

    Does anyone know anything about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter22 View Post
    I friend told me that two independent forensic pathologists found there was "no evidence of a struggle" between him and the police officer.

    Does anyone know anything about this?
    Do you have the names of the Forensic Pathologists? I thought Mary Case performed the first autopsy and I haven't heard there was a statement to the effect there was "no evidence of a struggle".
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post
    Do you have the names of the Forensic Pathologists? I thought Mary Case performed the first autopsy and I haven't heard there was a statement to the effect there was "no evidence of a struggle".
    Nope. That's why I asked; I haven't heard anything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter22 View Post
    Nope. That's why I asked; I haven't heard anything about it.
    I heard Dr. Mary Case performed the first autopsy. She is a highly respected Forensic Pathologist with extensive experience. She would have had access to and collected all of the physical evidence on the body.

    It was my understanding that Michael Baden performed the second autopsy at the request of the family. I don't know if he had access to the physical evidence or just performed an examination of the body.

    I don't know who the Department of Justice used to perform the third autopsy.

    Who knows who will perform the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th autopsy.
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