Here we go: another St. Louis shooting

[Straight Shooter]

Yup, fluctuates year to year between them and; Memphis, Chiraq, Detroit, Oakland, Atlanta, Baltimore, Cleveland, Buffalo, Stockton.

The dirty little secret most don't know or realize, is that EVERY SINGLE major American city is like this. Yes, some are MORE so than others, but the fact is, all of them have areas that look like Road Warrior or Escape from New York. And residents who act the part.
Having been to areas of most major cities many times, Ive seen with my own eyes how bad off things are. It is because I have seen places and things most haven't, that give me my skewed, pessimistic outlook on the future of his country. Damn thing about it all, is MY tax money, and yours..SUPPORT these ****ers, from cradle to grave.

[bp7178]

St. Louis is far from the most dangerous city. The stats are skewed because of how the city is organised. The urban city center is limited by state law and cannot expand past its 1950s 66 square miles. So the crime stats do NOT include the suburban area. The city itself is 300,000 plus, but the suburban area is 1.2 or 1.3 million. If you were to rate any metro area based solely on its urban core alone, it would rate MUCH worse. Drop the suburbs from Detroit and see how that fares.

[rocsteady]

According to Fox news, the US is in the top three in murders in the world until you remove four cities from the equation. Then we drop to third or fourth lowest. Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans and DC. Sorta' hard for the left to 'splain that one with all the gun laws in those cities.

[Palmguy]

According to Fox news, the US is in the top three in murders in the world until you remove four cities from the equation. Then we drop to third or fourth lowest. Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans and DC. Sorta' hard for the left to 'splain that one with all the gun laws in those cities.

Chicago and DC perhaps. Not sure that Detroit and NOLA have anything that would qualify as relatively draconian gun laws. Shall issue concealed carry, no mag limits, no AWBs...

[skydivr]

East St. Louis is a pit. There's an Army Reserve Unit in Granite City that I would go visit - and between there and I-64 you had BETTER be Armed and not break down...oh, and that's on the IL side where there is NO CCW reciprocity....

[montanadave]

My dad (late eighties) was telling me yesterday about attending a convention in St. Louis forty years ago. After dinner and a few cocktails, a couple of members in the group decided it would make for a fun evening to grab a cab and head over to a strip club in East. St. Louis.

My dad still remembers the cabbie, a black guy incidentally, saying, "Fellas, you really don't want to go over there. Hell, I don't want to go over there."

[Palmguy]

Video released from STL shooting:

[Warp]

That video says justified use of lethal force to me.

Let me see if I have this right...

-Armed robbery suspect hangs around waiting for police to respond
-Police roll up and he has his right hand in his pocket/waist/pants/whatever
-When he pulls his hand out it shows a knife
-While refusing to drop the knife he approaches officers, getting WELL inside of 'Tueller distance'
-When knife armed uncooperative robbery suspect is maybe 6-8 feet from the passenger side officer, shots fired

Seems pretty straight forward to me. Not sure if I'd call it suicide by cop or maybe he wanted to be famous/thought he could be a martyr/thought he could actually seriously injure or kill one by slowly approaching before the final attack

[docsherm]

Has the RIOT button been pushed on Twitter yet?......................

[lunchbox]

That video says justified use of lethal force to me.

Let me see if I have this right...

-Armed robbery suspect hangs around waiting for police to respond
-Police roll up and he has his right hand in his pocket/waist/pants/whatever
-When he pulls his hand out it shows a knife
-While refusing to drop the knife he approaches officers, getting WELL inside of 'Tueller distance'
-When knife armed uncooperative robbery suspect is maybe 6-8 feet from the passenger side officer, shots fired

Seems pretty straight forward to me. Not sure if I'd call it suicide by cop or maybe he wanted to be famous/thought he could be a martyr/thought he could actually seriously injure or kill one by slowly approaching before the final attack

I def think suicide by cop, he looked back at bystanders then moved bullet paths away from onlookers. He specificLy got up on embankment then charged. IMO, at least.