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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    Keri Russell is hot. Great show, don't know about the spy craft, but at least they don't make stupid omissions or stuff that just grates on you. The whole FBI angle, stealth, DARPA, the internet is interesting. They toy with you on if the spies are good guys or bad guys- they try to get you to root for them against the US. Almost has a Tom Clancy feel to it before he stated to suck, and died. And Keri Russel.
    That is one of the most interesting aspects of the show, that you view the Cold War from the Russian perspective for the most part. And not simply in a way that is sympathetic to the Russians, but from the standpoint of how the Russians intelligence community interpreted many events.

    And like you said, there is a tendency to view them as "underdogs" and cheer for them and then Kerri Russel goes completely off the rails and does something a Soviet sleeper agent might do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    That is one of the most interesting aspects of the show, that you view the Cold War from the Russian perspective for the most part. And not simply in a way that is sympathetic to the Russians, but from the standpoint of how the Russians intelligence community interpreted many events.

    And like you said, there is a tendency to view them as "underdogs" and cheer for them and then Kerri Russel goes completely off the rails and does something a Soviet sleeper agent might do.
    And how they sleep with people on the job- and that is ok- but outside of that it isn't OK. Keri Russel and the other wife/spy double-teaming that guy and than the husband comes in as a DOD/security guy. The wives leave and as they are getting dressed they talk about their kids like nothing happened.

    Great storylines, great characters and Ronald Reagan clips all to an 80s soundtrack. And Keri Russell. Those Iron Curtain abs....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    And how they sleep with people on the job- and that is ok- but outside of that it isn't OK. Keri Russel and the other wife/spy double-teaming that guy and than the husband comes in as a DOD/security guy. The wives leave and as they are getting dressed they talk about their kids like nothing happened.

    Great storylines, great characters and Ronald Reagan clips all to an 80s soundtrack. And Keri Russell. Those Iron Curtain abs....
    My favorite story element was the "matter of fact" presentation of black militants who had been knowingly recruited by the KGB during the civil rights movement. I bet that popped a lot of heads when people saw it for the first time.
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    I love the show, one of the best on Cable TV for sure.
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    Show should be well researched, the head writer, Joseph Weisberg, is former CIA. Granted he only spent a few years in the agency but it's still a helluva lot more insight into real espionage than almost all TV show writers.
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    I watched the first episode with a friend when i was in college. He was going a for a computer science degree. After the end, I looked to him and said that the main plot was about 90% accurate. Yes, the KGB had nuclear family sleeper cells in deep cover in the U.S. for years. He was speechless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    That is one of the most interesting aspects of the show, that you view the Cold War from the Russian perspective for the most part. And not simply in a way that is sympathetic to the Russians, but from the standpoint of how the Russians intelligence community interpreted many events
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    In the early 90s, when the wall fell and we became BFFs with Russia, I went to a symposium of former intelligence officers, American and KGB. The KGB, for all of their spying, interpreted things so very differently, always thought the US was on the verge of attacking the USSR. Also the amount of misinformation the US put out that they bought was pretty significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauser KAR98K View Post
    I watched the first episode with a friend when i was in college. He was going a for a computer science degree. After the end, I looked to him and said that the main plot was about 90% accurate. Yes, the KGB had nuclear family sleeper cells in deep cover in the U.S. for years. He was speechless.
    The latest reboot of the Tom Clancy films Jack Ryan Shadow Recruit portrayed just such a family in CONUS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2149175/?ref_=rvi_tt

    Set in the early 80s, two Soviet intelligence agents pose as a married couple to spy on the American government.
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    Seriously - you did not know about this show till now? We have threads on it each season.

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    I just wanna know where they found that pristine '82 Z28 near the end of last season. Who keeps an '82 Z28 that nice? It's not like they were very remarkable other than the new styling, they were terrible performance cars. I could understand an IROCZ but they didn't come out until '85.
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