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Thread: Hodge Defense--Best Carbine money can buy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic1 View Post
    Did you not see M4Guru's post on page 4? He has one as well.
    The issue here is that the same mods who generaly beat down new users, and lock their threads over fit and finish, are ow the same ones who are now saying this is the best rifle money can buy due to its fit and finish.

    It's just a basic rifle with off the shelf parts with great fit and finish. Tell me you don't see why everyone is acting like they are?

    If this was posted by anyone who was not a mod.....or hell even a new user the thread would have been locked after a lengthy insult from a mod about how fit and finish is crap and doesn't matter. It has happened way to often here.

    I did get a laugh of the pic with jessie james.......just not a fan of overly fake plastic porn stars who are well used.
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    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryno12 View Post
    It was taken with Jesse Jane, not Jessica Jaymes. Two different porn actresses. If it would've been taken with Jessica Jaymes, he'd have 12 month back order by now.

    Which shows you what I know about porn....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    The issue here is that the same mods who generaly beat down new users, and lock their threads over fit and finish, are ow the same ones who are now saying this is the best rifle money can buy due to its fit and finish.

    It's just a basic rifle with off the shelf parts with great fit and finish. Tell me you don't see why everyone is acting like they are?

    If this was posted by anyone who was not a mod.....or hell even a new user the thread would have been locked after a lengthy insult from a mod about how fit and finish is crap and doesn't matter. It has happened way to often here.

    I did get a laugh of the pic with jessie james.......just not a fan of overly fake plastic porn stars who are well used.

    It's almost like this thread is a giant, how should I put this...practical joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Which shows you what I know about porn....
    ....but I know that you know a lot of hot chicks & since there is some cross over, I thought I'd clarify. Just reporting that facts, man.


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    sinlesssorrow,

    I'm not a moderator, I don't edit, lock or otherwise do anything here other than post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M4Guru View Post
    sinlesssorrow,

    I'm not a moderator, I don't edit, lock or otherwise do anything here other than post.
    Oh I know, I didn't have you in mind. Always like you input in topics.
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    Colt builds War Horses, not show ponies.
    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryno12 View Post
    ....but I know that you know a lot of hot chicks & since there is some cross over, I thought I'd clarify. Just reporting that facts, man.
    Noted in my log book O hot chicks.
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    I have talked to M4Guru at length multiple times, and done a few transactions with him. I put a lot of stock in his opinions. He isn't the type to toss away money for nothing. Nor is he the type to shill for someone.
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    How about instead of "fit and finish"," meticulously put together", "top tier parts" ect. ect. we ask what performance gains we are actually seeing. Considering experience trigger pullers are vetting the rifle?

    How does it improve on the ergonomics compared to competitor rifles?

    Are you seeing a speed increase running this over other offerings?

    How do the components choices increase reliability and longevity/service life of the rifle?

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    Fit & finish is one of the most misunderstood aspects of gunmaking, especially on this site. How pretty a rifle looks doesn't help it shoot better or make it more durable or reliable. But fit & finish does. Not adhering to the proper fit & finish is one reason some of the lower quality ARs are unreliable. Fit and finish are specified on the build drawings. Fit is how well the tolerances are held. A poorly fitted rifle means it has parts that don't mate properly and leads to malfunctions and even jams. Finish is much more than cosmetics. It specifies how rough surfaces are allowed to be and what kind of coatings are to be used. Parts with surfaces that are rougher than allowed drag against each other. Parts incorrectly coated or incorrectly hardened can gall, wear, drag, corrode, crack and have other problems. Fit & finish is very important and folks who really understand firearms know this.

    Attention to detail is what separates a finely built firearm from one that merely assembled. So many are spoiled by the fact that ARs afford us the luxury of being able to assemble from parts, a well running rifle with minimal tools and effort, they lose sight of the importance of how much difference that attention to the little details make and how much extra time and cost it adds to a production rifle. No one seemed to catch on to the fact that the selector of the Hodges AR moves smoothly, like it was on bearings. Do a bit of research on this site how many have asked about the mushy and/or overly stiff action of their selector switch. The usual "fixes" range from "Normal" to "It will get better with use" to "Try another selector". Everyone seems to have missed just how amazing it is Hodges got this one little detail right!- and it's only one little detail. These are the kind of details folks pay thousands of dollars for when having a custom firearm built.

    It may be possible for anyone to build a rifle with the same features for the same money or less. But can anyone specify an interference fit between barrel & upper and install it? Set up a selector to run smoothly and positively without slop? Fit an upper to a lower so there is no play without having to use excessive pressure to move the pins? You also have to ask yourself what other details they got right, such as gas port diameter, buffer weight and spring rate, that make the shooting experience that much better. No offense to anyone, but there is a definite lack of understanding of gun-making on this site and people should educate themselves before making such foolish criticisms I've seem in this thread. We should all listen to what our respected members such as SMGLee and F2S have to say and when we have questions, or challenge what they have to say, it should be done respectfully and with the realization they are respected for a reason.

    We have seen many knowledgeable people stop participating on this site and we are much the poorer as a result. One reason is the disrespect they have been subjected to by the unwashed masses.

    It's times lie this I really miss the wisdom of AC
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