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Thread: Hodge Defense--Best Carbine money can buy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoutfsu99 View Post
    Try building that rifle on a Tuesday night for less money when you're paying things like the FET, wages, the light bill, and 20 other different things. Saying you can build something for less money is disingenuous and outright silly when you look at factors other than building it on your kitchen table.
    How is that in any way my problem as a potential customer? Did I say they were marking up their goods for no reason? Nope. It just so happens that the collaboration of parts they are offering at the price they are offering them come in at a higher price than what a home builder could produce a similar rifle for. Are we supposed to give companies passes because of their overhead and any other associated costs forcing them to charge a higher margin? Everybody has to make a living, but at the same time every company also has to decide what options they offer on their product are financially feasible and at what price point they can balance costs and profitability. For someone who can't buy these parts and build the rifle this isn't a bad option. For someone who can it doesn't make any sense to buy their product.

    The fact is yes I can build an almost identical rifle for cheaper. Nothing at all disingenuous about that. Could I build a stable of them incurring the same costs that this company does and build them for cheaper? No. You do see the difference here right? It's the entire point of the argument. Their overhead means nothing to me as an unbiased customer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryno12 View Post
    How 'bout more pics of Jesse?


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    Hell yes. I can't believe it took 4 pages for someone to bring that up.

    I have a plate carrier, What does Jesse charge for a "gun shot"?
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    I got to handle a pre-production prototype and shoot it about a year ago. The balance and perceived recoil impulse were impressive, but like many, I'm not in the premium AR market.

    As I get older, I have begun to appreciate more of the finer things in life. No one bashes a $8k Rolex because a $20 Timex keeps better time, etc. People have to spend their money on something. Far be it from me to impose my thrifty carbine spending habits on someone else, or my expensive bourbon drinking habits on someone who likes Evan Williams...

    There is a place for products at all price points. I could give a crap whether it's better than a KAC or not.

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    Discounting the teenage boys and those pron to lechery, the owner saw the pictures associated to his product and DID NOT distance himself from such foolishness.

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    Do you get mad when Chevy doesn't issue a press release when a chick in a bikini is on the hood of a Camaro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    Discounting the teenage boys and those pron to lechery, the owner saw the pictures associated to his product and DID NOT distance himself from such foolishness.
    What was he supposed to do? Is it being used in his direct marketing and such? I wouldn't pursue her or any adult film actor type to model for my products. But would I get a laugh out of it if my product happened to get used (and I don't know the specifics of how it came to be used in the photo shoot ) in a photo shoot with James? Yes, I'd get a good laugh from it personally and I have yet to see a single movie of hers not being a fan of porn. No doubt, some would expect some official condemnation of the product appearing with James I suppose.
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    The porn star is just a distraction from a valid discussion. There are lots of photos around of women with guns. Who cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWood View Post
    The porn star is just a distraction from a valid discussion. There are lots of photos around of women with guns. Who cares?
    Correct:

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    You aren't the only one.

    I figured they had to do something to distract from the puffery and lack of quantification of specs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWood View Post
    The porn star is just a distraction from a valid discussion. There are lots of photos around of women with guns. Who cares?
    I dunno man. I had never heard of Jesse Jane before this thread either, but apparently she is pretty active in .mil circles (Not sexually). After I googled her, I definitely had Da Wood and cared way less about a review lacking specs for a gun that have since been listed.
    Why do the loudest do the least?

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    Can we just get back to "The best carbine $$$ can buy?"
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