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    "Hands Up, Don't Loot!" by the 'Sultan Knish'

    Another insightful and thought provoking commentary from 'the Sultan Knish'.

    Two highlights.
    http://sultanknish.blogspot.co.at/20...dont-loot.html

    "The violence in Ferguson didn't begin when a police officer shot Michael Brown. It began when a 300 lb thug robbed the Ferguson Market and abused a clerk. The release of the video showing the obese criminal assaulting the clerk led to a terrified statement from the store manager that he had not called the police and had nothing to do with the release of the video.

    They kill us if they think we are responsible," he said.

    That is what this conflict is about. The police exist so that Ferguson Market and a hundred other stores can do business without being robbed or murdered. Darren Wilson, the officer who shot Michael Brown, was holding down the thin line that makes it possible for stores to stay open and children to go to school.

    When the police pulled back, the rioting and looting began in earnest. A mob forced its way into Ferguson Market and other stores. Governor Nixon, a critic of the police was forced to turn to the National Guard.
    All systems and people are flawed, but our law enforcement and military are reactive. When we don't talk about what they are reacting to, then there is nothing meaningful to say.

    We don't have SWAT teams because law enforcement has gone completely insane. We have them because of race riots and urban guerrilla warfare. Without Watts, the Black Panthers and the SLA, the police militarization would probably never have existed.

    The militarization of the police was a response to left-wing violence and terror. And the left knows it.

    If the left hadn't spent much of the last century inciting race riots and setting up terrorist groups, there wouldn't be police officers armed for war.

    If not for the left's disastrous social experiments, the War on Drugs would never have been necessary. Instead the left trashes social values and criminal laws and then complains about the authoritarian rebound from the crime waves that follow. The wealthy liberal who snorts cocaine and dashes from sexual encounter to encounter can walk away with little damage done. The same behavior in the ghetto leaves behind shattered lives and destroyed communities because there is no safety net for it.
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    Excellent essay. Thank you for the link Belloc.

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    Racist! Michael Brown was "an unarmed black teen gunned down in cold blood by a WHITE police officer".

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    Moving this thread back into GD, after a brief hiatus.

    We had another Ferguson thread that was closed, due to folks talking more about each other than the events that occurred. Please keep this thread on-track. Thanks.

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    Dude. Ferguson is so last week.

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    There was a facebook post that a girl I knew in college was posting a blog about Furgerson and the racial issues that are "underlying". Guy calls himself a Wordsmith, and actually works at the same university I had graduated from. Basically it was white guilt and you have to put yourself in the perspective of the black community to understand how they fell (or the looting and and what not they are doing).

    My reply:

    I think he needs to get out of academia more. This is mostly about culture and those using race so the can make their criminal activity more "acceptable." Why are people looting and ransacking shops that belong to people who did not have anything to do with Brown getting shot, including the store that Brown had robbed? You know, the six foot, four man that my six foot one self could not last two minutes in a knock-out drag-out fight with. The same man who strong armed a store owner who was half his size for cheap cigars. The same man who punched, beaten officer Wilson and fractured his eye socked while the officer was fighting him off in his patrol vehicle and fighting desperately from Brown getting his gun.

    With the evidence that has come to light in the past week, and what I have said above, I would have shot Brown no matter what race he was. That officer was completely justified in what he had to do to survive. Now his life is ruined, threatened, because the only eye witness was Brown's criminal accomplice and people rushing out on judgement with very little facts.

    We have so many opportunities in this country to better people who truly need to be better than where they are. We have manufacture jobs that need people with skill, and states and federal government put money and programs together to acquire these skills: welders, drivers, etc. But people don't. We have a welfare system that awards those to stay at home then take the money as a quick leg up to find better jobs. Minimum wage jobs are not to be careers. They are to keep food on the table and lights running. What you need to ask is why these people in these cultures do not take these opportunities? Is it the economy that even recent undergrads can't get good careers in (including myself who has been looking for something to satisfy my student loans and my goals in life)? Is it the raising of the qualifications pole that the government keeps doing that makes it more difficult for people to get skills needed for this economy? Don't believe me? try having sleep apnea with no insurance and money to get a breathing machine in order to pass a DOT physical for some companies because you lack a CPAP machine. This is even if you have an very mild case of it. This is preventing many to get needed jobs in an industry that is hurting for drivers.

    Or is it that many feel a life of crime pays better and gets the thrill and life style and "prestige" and creds on in their zip code? With Hollywood and entertainment glorifying crime, part of the symptom is there. Remember, "Top Gun" got a lot of people into the Navy, South Park got us "kick a ginger" day, and now "The Purge" is spawning an epidemic of orgy anarchy in certain large cities like Louisville, KY.

    We do live in a post-racial America. Some people are not accepting that and those people may surprise as to who they are. This is a cultural and crime problem that has transcend race, but their is a demographic gap in the statistics because of certain life-style glorification and close-mindedness. Smith is right, there is an race "experience" that is an equation to this, but the reasons for them doing crime because they are a certain color and "class" is the worst excuse and reason to come up with. He adds more to the stereotype and more to the broad profiling of a race when it is indeed a culture that should not be accepted in any society.
    The one response I get is that they are sadden that I am such an angry person, and we need a dialogue on racial tension in America. Why do liberals try to always put people on a guilt trip to boost of their emotional argument?

    (PM me if you want the Wordsmith's blog posting. Not going to hot link it, and it is a long post).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauser KAR98K View Post
    There was a facebook post that a girl I knew in college was posting a blog about Furgerson and the racial issues that are "underlying". Guy calls himself a Wordsmith, and actually works at the same university I had graduated from. Basically it was white guilt and you have to put yourself in the perspective of the black community to understand how they fell (or the looting and and what not they are doing).

    My reply:



    The one response I get is that they are sadden that I am such an angry person, and we need a dialogue on racial tension in America. Why do liberals try to always put people on a guilt trip to boost of their emotional argument?

    (PM me if you want the Wordsmith's blog posting. Not going to hot link it, and it is a long post).
    So black people angry about racism are justified and their frustration understandable but when a white guy is angry about racism it's sad and they need to seek a dialogue about racial tension.

    Sounds exactly like what MLK was hoping for when he spoke of equality.
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    have you guys heard about the looting in Chicago's Chinatown when a Chicago Cop shot a Chinese student after he came back from the library, studying all day?

    *sounds for effect*
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    If you are in a fight, and something impedes your ability to adequately project force, correct that problem or remove yourself from the fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belloc View Post
    Another insightful and thought provoking commentary from 'the Sultan Knish'.

    Two highlights.
    Great read, God this is pure gold right here.

    "Despite the plywood boards covering the windows and doors, looters with their faces covered in bandanas helped themselves to anything they could find as those who came to memorialize Michael Brown carried on his work."


    Here is another snippet on the aspiring career criminal.


    Michael Brown Jr. Social Media Page Reveals Extreme Racism Towards Whites

    http://mrconservative.com/2014/08/47...owards-whites/
    "In a nut shell, if it ever goes to Civil War, I'm afraid I'll be in the middle 70%, shooting at both sides" — 26 Inf


    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon 10/30/18

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    Well, gang, looks like it is our fault that all this is going on.

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2...NxN/story.html
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