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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Damage View Post
    A simple risk analysis will show this is not a good idea.

    List the Potential benefits
    -You get to tell people your 3 year old cleans your gun

    List the Potential detriments
    -Unknown long term health issues

    I'm just dumbfounded at some of you....
    pros
    quality time w son
    satisfy his curiosity under adult supervision

    cons
    toxins

    if GMO's don't get him first


    ps
    parts were 90% clean
    so far to the left i must be right.

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    Frith on a bloody stick! Generations of kids have grown up shooting thousands of lead 22 rimfire and cleaning their firearms. I've been around firearms my whole life and have been shooting, reloading, cleaning firearms, digging copper and lead bullets out of backstops, casting lead ingots and bullets, and teaching my kids to do the same. I've probably been exposed to more heavy metal hazards on my job than I have shooting.Take a few reasonable precautions and wash everyone's hands before eating and you won't have to worry about your kids growing a third eye like Blinky the fish. Yes, heavy metal poisoning is a real hazard but one that's over blown by the Nanny Staters.

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    delete.

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    Lead is only motile when it's bound to a inorganic salt or an organic compound. Lead and lead oxide are not that hazardous on your skin.

    Remember all the kids eating paint chips and getting lead poisoning? Those were lead compounds, not elemental lead. Besides, back to the original points, lead is the least of the concerns here. The numerous organics are way more motile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eljimbo142 View Post
    i was cleaning my rifle @ my work bench when my almost 3 yr old son told me he wanted to help. after a pause i told him to pull up a chair. i had already wiped off most of the carbon with a dry rag. i gave him a q-tip w a drop of fireclean and put him to work on the bolt carrier. he kept at it for about 45 min. thats a long time for a 3 yr old. it was an enjoyable afternoon w my boy. i even talked him through the bcg assembly. fireclean says its non-toxic and thats all i use. should i be worried about the carbon fouling? he washed up real good after he was done. i was not raised around firearms so was wondering if this is normal father/son bonding.

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    I would be a little hesitant about having a child being exposed to chemicals but Im happy that you are already exposing him to firearm familiarity and safety. Whenever I clean or do maintenance on my guns I have my oldest boy (will be 4 in December) bring his Nerf gun and we "clean our guns" together. From the very first time he showed an interest in guns I got him a Nerf gun and started working on the safety rules in a way that he could understand. He knows to a) never point it at his younger brother or anyone at all for that matter b) he is not to leave it lying around and we even got him a small toybox to use as his "gun safe". He knows that if he leaves it lying around or points it at anyone its getting taken from him. Hes also very naturally curious about my guns I'll allow him to look at them and ask questions to his hearts content, but not hold or use himself. I'm just doing my best to instill a sense of responsibility and respect in him and so far its worked very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrotx1 View Post
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    My son is only 9 months old and whenever I take an AR out of the safe to clean, tinker, etc. he gets a huge smile and speed-crawls over to me. I dont let him touch yet, obviously.... but I consider this a good sign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E_Johnson View Post
    My son is only 9 months old and whenever I take an AR out of the safe to clean, tinker, etc. he gets a huge smile and speed-crawls over to me. I dont let him touch yet, obviously.... but I consider this a good sign.
    Mines the same way. Coincidentally, he just turned 9mo a little while back. I also consider it a good sign.

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    Oh my. Part of teaching them is teaching them correct. Gloves, safety glasses, well ventilated area and not sucking on bolt carries like lolipops and drinking any liquids from the tube or bottle. In reality I don't see a 3 year old with a wire brush and Hoppes going to town on a cruddy bolt. I am getting older and was a Bio major with a minor in Chem but that was in the dark ages I guess and I ran off and joined the circus instead of sticking in the sciences so maybe I forget how easily you might grow a third eye from ingesting lead during our developmental years. Hell my entire family line on my fathers side, myself included have handled firearms from as far back as my first memories take me, but I guess that is my own personal experience / bias view on the topic and if you didn't hunt, you didn't eat. Glad that necessity to hunt has changed to a love instead of a need for myself and hopefully the generations that follow me in my family line.

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    It's simple really- more a question of ability over age.

    Can the kid handle a cleaning rod without poking themselves in the eye? Y/N
    Is the kid going to try and drink the cleaning solvent? Y/N
    Is the kid going to get carbon/lead all over their hands and then lick them or stick them in his/her eye? Y/N
    Is the kid going to understand "why" when you're trying to explain things to them? Y/N

    If you picked "no" for the first three and "yes" for the last, you're probably ok....
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