Son's of Gun's Owner Arrested for Child Rape

**Irish** · 08-29-14, 11:48

Originally Posted by Eurodriver

I'm glad at least some LEO's do their job and don't automatically haul the guy off to jail.

Why? He's guilty! It said so in a couple of news articles so it must be true.

**Watrdawg** · 08-29-14, 13:07

The sad part of all of this is that "IF" true is that the little girls had to go through this. Things like this also don't just happen out of the blue. I really hope there aren't any others out there that he may have molested also. IF this is true then he definitely needs to but put in Gen Pop with a sign on his back side stating what he did and Open for Business on it. I'm sure it will be in the news off and on once he goes to trial.

**jerrysimons** · 08-29-14, 13:56

I am all for innocent until proven guilty. At the same time the depravity of the human condition pervades so deep it is absolutely alarming how well-buried instances of sexual abuse can be. Neighbors, friends, family-members, remarkably well composed and regarded by keen folk, sometimes have incredibly well-managed deep, dark secrets. It is not difficult for me to imagine that ol' "I'm the boss!" Will may have carried out a domination fantasy over his little daughters. I'll let the trial run its course, but also don't have any illusion that the legal system is fool proof, especially when it comes to the relational complexities of evidence surrounding rape, sexual abuse, and incest. We may never know they whole truth.

Like J-dub said, many claims are BS. Many are not. Even more go unspoken. I try to apply suspicion equally in all directions to avoid being surprised and shown to be an enabler when someone's carefully crafted facade comes crashing down, secrets clawing out.

**SpeedRacer** · 08-29-14, 17:21

Originally Posted by jerrysimons

I am all for innocent until proven guilty. At the same time the depravity of the human condition pervades so deep it is absolutely alarming how well-buried instances of sexual abuse can be. Neighbors, friends, family-members, remarkably well composed and regarded by keen folk, sometimes have incredibly well-managed deep, dark secrets. It is not difficult for me to imagine that ol' "I'm the boss!" Will may have carried out a domination fantasy over his little daughters. I'll let the trial run its course, but also don't have any illusion that the legal system is fool proof, especially when it comes to the relational complexities of evidence surrounding rape, sexual abuse, and incest. We may never know they whole truth.

Like J-dub said, many claims are BS. Many are not. Even more go unspoken. I try to apply suspicion equally in all directions to avoid being surprised and shown to be an enabler when someone's carefully crafted facade comes crashing down, secrets clawing out.

Well said.

When the ex-gf accused him (first arrest), I assumed it probably was indeed a typical false allegation. But his own daughters...

**Irish** · 08-29-14, 17:29

People's lives and reputations get destroyed through the modern media rage onslaught...

Hayden tells TMZ his ex-girlfriend, and mother to one of his daughters, went to cops more than a week ago and accused him of molesting their child. He claims the woman did it in retaliation for him ending their relationship.

Hayden also says the daughter -- who he is raising with his new wife -- was interviewed by Child Protective Services and returned to his home. He says he is fully cooperating with authorities.

Will's older daughter Stephanie tells us, "There was never any impropriety in our home. He was and is a good father."

**Ryno12** · 08-29-14, 17:38

Originally Posted by Irish

People's lives and reputations get destroyed through the modern media rage onslaught...

That's an interesting quote from Stephanie. Didn't her husband poetically state otherwise on FB??

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**Irish** · 08-29-14, 17:40

Originally Posted by Ryno12

That's an interesting quote from Stephanie. Didn't her husband poetically state otherwise on FB??

I don't really know... I don't keep up with it much but someone sent me that thinking I'd care.

I think there are a lot of assumptions being made by people due to wanting to be mad at something and tell the world how mad they are! If he's guilty, hang 'em. But until then I'll reserve judgment.