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    So are we saying that as long as departments have access to cost effective equipment we shouldn't give a crap if they are lost, stolen, sold or otherwise unaccounted for. We shouldn't worry that our tax dollars are being pisses away in a newer way??

    Ignoring all the militarization and Fergudishi crap my take away and concern from the article is that we may have unaccounted weapons and tax payer funded equipment. I have no issue with people looking into what was paid for out of MY wallet and where it's at. If someone fished the numbers and defrauded me they should go to jail. If someone lost guns and didn't report it they should be fired. If someone sold guns on the BM they should go to jail. People in government need to be held accountable just like everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    We never would've had billions of dollars in excess equipment if we never got involved in these stupid wars to begin with.

    It's like a revolving door for the military to just keep on spending money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    It's like a revolving door for the military to just keep on spending money. Build thousands of MRAPs and Humvees, give to PD, build more vehicles, give to PD, build more...
    Better on Defense than wasted on idiotic social programs. I run my house the way I'd run the Country. I don't give money to useless fukks on the side of the freeway and perpetuate their dependency.

    I put it in excessive ammo and weapon spending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Better on Defense than wasted on idiotic social programs. I run my house the way I'd run the Country. I don't give money to useless fukks on the side of the freeway and perpetuate their dependency.

    I put it in excessive ammo and weapon spending.
    True. What am I talking about? We all know that the second DoD budgets get slashed all that money is going to SS and Medicare/caid anyway. Might as well use the $$$ to keep us ahead of the Chinese and Russians.

    There's no way the Feds are going to cut spending and stop stealing so much of our money at gunpoint. However, if local PDs had to pay DoD cost for these armored vehicles then there would be a hell of a lot less of them on our streets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    There's no way the Feds are going to cut spending and stop stealing so much of our money at gunpoint. However, if local PDs had to pay DoD cost for these armored vehicles then there would be a hell of a lot less of them on our streets.
    That's true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    I saw a 1033 16 here that had the auto sear removed. A cop's son was running it in a class.
    I have a problem with that particular scenario. If it's a 1033 weapon, FA neutered or not, and is used by the cop himself in a class (with his department's permission) so he can hone his skills, okay. But his son has no damn business using it in a class. It is a .gov giveaway to a police department, not his kid. This begins to border on lackadaisical accountability.

    "Where is the M-16 we issued you?"

    "Oh, my son is using it this weekend at a Pat Rogers class". WRONG freaking answer!!!



    ETA: if the cop was taking the class too, it isn't as cut-and-dry. However, if he just gave it to the kid for the weekend then NO-GO!
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