Drone Delays Air Ambulance From Landing!

[Denali]

Totally blown away by this and posts just like it. This is just as arrogant and anti-liberty as the rabid gun-grabbing folks out there. Just because you don't like something means it should be regulated out of existence? Holy shit. Maybe I don't like you photographing wildlife. Camera licenses are going to be about $180k now, hope you've got deep enough pockets to enjoy your "liberty"

Absolutely absurd. I really hope this is a bad joke on your part.

I'm sorry you feel that way, most cops up here feel differently about things, I won't even begin to tell you what landowners such as myself think, suffice it to say that, "we are not as patriotic as you seem to be..."

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lc/commit..._atv_facts.pdf

"I have no personal opinion as to whether an ATV trail system or corridor should be developed in Vilas
County, however, having observed other forms of recreational vehicle use (dirt bikes, snowmobiles, and
water craft) in Vilas County in the past, I think your committee should be aware of enforcement concerns.
Enclosed along with this letter please find statistics from the last three years involving snowmobile, water
craft, and ATV complaints. Typically these complaints involve such matters as accidents, trespass,
damage to property, speed, noise, littering, road right-of-way violations, underage operators, unregistered
Sample of photos from the internet. All photos supposedly taken in northern Wisconsin. This is not a sampling of
the worst. There are hundreds if not thousands of pictures of this sort of ATV riding occurring in Wisconsin. 6
vehicles, and intoxicated operators to name a few...The point of this letter is to allow everyone involved
with the ATV discussions to consider enforcement obligations and subsequent funding concerns...If the
need arises for increased patrol because of serious or ongoing violations, some type of funding will be
needed to address that additional workload." (Sheriff John A. Neibuhr, Vilas County Sheriff, excerpt from
a letter addressed to county board member Doyen, May 2, 2003.)
"[Burnett County Sheriff Dean Roland] made it clear to [the Burnett County Board] if his department
doesn't have the manpower to properly police county-owned ATV trails with a Forestry officer, his solution
is simple, 'If that position is eliminated, my suggestion will be to close the trails. We simply don't have the
people to patrol them.'" (‘Sheriff says without deputies to patrol them, no ATV trails at all'. Burnett County
Sentinel. October 15, 2003.)
"[ATV riders] come up here and think they can just go anywhere they want and do anything they want to
do. If we don't curtail it now, I don't know how we'll ever curtail it. The northern tier of counties in
Wisconsin are really getting hammered." (Steve Chistner, Burnett County Recreation Officer, quoted in
Burnett County Sentinel, July 14, 2004.)

"[Douglas County Recreation Officer, Steve Olson] described the Namekagon Barrens region of northeast
Burnett County as a 'zoo,' saying ATV drivers are tearing up the terrain in that area." ('County needs
woods patrol', Burnett County Sentinel,July 14, 2004.)
“The growth has just exploded on ATVs and there’s no enforcement,” Meyers said. “That has just
reinforced their idea – basically they know – that whatever they do, they can act with impunity.” (Roberta
Scruggs, Landowner Relations,Presented by the Sportsman’s Alliance of Main with financial support from
The Maine Outdoor Heritage Fund, Date unknown.)

I have every reason to believe that as drones continue to evolve and be marketed, they will generally be operated in exactly the same fashion as the ATV's, and by exactly the same people! Where I live, we don't want either, its not about freedom or liberty, its about personal responsibility, and you'll just have to take me at my word on this, we ain't buying into the BS anymore, we have seen first hand how responsible these folks are, I want these vehicles and UAV's heavily regulated, and their operation restricted, as do most of the cops up here...Believe it!

[alienb1212]

Some difference yes, but government telling you what you can and can't do in a specific location or scenario is still government telling you what you can and can't do.

Also I think we tend to assume we are entitled to certain things such as these high tech drones, yet I don't recall them being protected via the likes of a second amendment. Therefore if idiots want to keep pushing the envelope for their own satisfaction I'd suggest dealing with them rather than the those who are being negatively affected by their negligent selfishness.

Ok, fine, point taken.


What are your suggestions for specific, drone-related regulations that seem reasonable and accountable to YOU?






I think approaching some kind of ham-radio licensing structure would be a start. Perhaps differing levels of licensing for altitude allowances, with anything over 100ft requiring a radio to be monitored and an IFF or something? Dunno.


I would really hate to see these things regulated into worthlessness. There's too many positive uses for these things out there in civilian hands.

[alienb1212]

I'm sorry you feel that way, most cops up here feel differently about things, I won't even begin to tell you what landowners such as myself think, suffice it to say that, "we are not as patriotic as you seem to be..."





I have every reason to believe that as drones continue to evolve and be marketed, they will generally be operated in exactly the same fashion as the ATV's, and by exactly the same people! Where I live, we don't want either, its not about freedom or liberty, its about personal responsibility, and you'll just have to take me at my word on this, we ain't buying into the BS anymore, we have seen first hand how responsible these folks are, I want these vehicles and UAV's heavily regulated, and their operation restricted, as do most of the cops up here...Believe it!

I understand your point. I'm sorry it has reached a level where you feel this kind of thing is needed. I think there's a good middle ground somewhere, I'm just not sure where that is.

[Safetyhit]

I think there's a good middle ground somewhere, I'm just not sure where that is.

And that my friend sums it up perfectly.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

At what level of coms/connectivity complexity are you supposed to get a HAM radio license? Just say that mentioned as a plus for the newer smaller FPV sets that are coming out, no needing a ham license.