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Thread: WA State voters: critical upcoming votes on I-594 and I-591 in November

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    I can't it even passed my county Asotin. This is terrible for Washington state.

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    Well, now what? . ( something like 31% voter turnout, now thats sad. )

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    This really sucks for you guys, I was sorry to read about this last night.

    What is next? Do you have a local organization file a lawsuit to try and delay it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousStudent View Post
    This really sucks for you guys, I was sorry to read about this last night.

    What is next? Do you have a local organization file a lawsuit to try and delay it?
    I really have to ask, how is a law like this going to be enforced? Is the state going to set up a database to track all gun purchases? Is the state going to pay for random house checks to make sure you haven't sold your private property to whoever you deem competent to own? The logistics of such a law are mind boggling. Does the law treat it as a Felony crime to transfer privately without a Background Check or will it be treated as a misdemeanor?

    Obviously the above is sarcasm, Law abiding gun owners simply will have to go to an FFL and pay for a transfer rather than risk being charged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorphCross View Post
    I really have to ask, how is a law like this going to be enforced? Is the state going to set up a database to track all gun purchases? Is the state going to pay for random house checks to make sure you haven't sold your private property to whoever you deem competent to own? The logistics of such a law are mind boggling. Does the law treat it as a Felony crime to transfer privately without a Background Check or will it be treated as a misdemeanor?

    Obviously the above is sarcasm, Law abiding gun owners simply will have to go to an FFL and pay for a transfer rather than risk being charged.
    I doubt they plan to enforce it except at "gun shows" of course. The real insidious aspect of laws like this are they will slam it on you if they catch you with a gun sold to someone else since the law passed and now in your possession. If you are pulled over and innocently consent to a search of your truck during a traffic stop, or there is a fire at your house and the police happen to notice a rifle on your workbench sold to some else and no transfer record to you. Laws such as this can make a large number of people criminals overnight without them even knowing they did something wrong (best friend dies and his wife gives you the shotgun he used to go duck hunting with you, etc.).
    It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! ... Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry in an address at St. John’s Church, Richmond, Virginia, on March 23, 1775.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrcpete View Post
    Confident in voters’ support of I-594 to expand gun-purchase background checks, advocates of stricter gun laws announced their intent to push lawmakers in Olympia next year for more changes.
    Maybe my old home state needs to go the way of Colorado, pass a bunch of gun laws that piss off the general population, and then have the liberals thrown out. I left WA in 1995 because the liberals in Seattle and Olympia were so whacko, and now it is much worse.

    I really wish anthropogenic global warming was fact instead of some made up wet dream. Then we could amp up the pollution, warm this globe up and bury the coastal cities under 100 ft of water. Seriously, something has to change this ridiculous situation wherein a couple of large cities chock full of dependents/liberals rule over vast areas of rural/conservative populations.
    It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! ... Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry in an address at St. John’s Church, Richmond, Virginia, on March 23, 1775.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrcpete View Post
    Well, now what? . ( something like 31% voter turnout, now thats sad. )
    AND the SAD thing is: that holds true for most elections. It is FUKKN hard for me to believe that 70% don't give a shit about most issues. The most telling statement is that the anti 2A groups touted this as a 1st step. There are those that will not be satisfied with anything other than total abolishment of legal gun ownership, and of course those either believe bad people wan't do bad things to them or their family, and if they do someone else will be in a better position to protect them. And I thought Washington was one of the better left coast states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWPilgrim View Post
    Seriously, something has to change this ridiculous situation wherein a couple of large cities chock full of dependents/liberals rule over vast areas of rural/conservative populations.
    Go back to the concept of a republic, not our current mob democracy that 1 pulse = 1 vote, regardless of how stupid, entitled, useless, criminal, etc., and that the majority of votes can do whatever they want, regardless of constitutional law or basic morality.

    I wouldn't hold your breath though.

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    The law is nigh unenforceable except at gun shows.

    Even if the police find a gun at your place that has no record of transfer, they can not assume it was privately purchased AFTER the law has passed.

    We see the same thing with Colorado's stupid mag ban. No way to tell the mags are new unless the mag design didn't exist before the law passed.

    The reason this law will burn has to do with the 18-21 year old rules. It's now impossible to get a handgun between the age of 18 and 21 under the new law. It is not federally illegal, so there is a good chance this will be seen as a violation of the second amendment in my opinion.
    Last edited by foxtrotx1; 11-07-14 at 09:35.

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