Comp on defensive 308?

[Faultline]

I do have a 12ga for "bump in the night" scenarios, I was more envisioning my MWS as an outdoor perimeter weapon. I don't have grand fantasies about SHTF but I do have anywhere from 5-600 yds outside of my house that I could take hostile fire from. The likelihood of this is slim unless something drastically changed but I do believe in optimizing my tools as well as my mindset and training as much as possible. I know I need more training and I seek it when I can and my wallet allows. I guess I am more interested in a defensive role outdoors. Being a civilian limits my response greatly in that scenario but I do contemplate such things.

[specopsscout]

Suppressors and flash suppressors are basically verboten here in Jersey, but I have a BABC on my POF P308 Recon and am very happy with it's performance. I have a set of MSA electronic ear pro to save what's left of my hearing.

[markm]

Pappabear ran a Battlecomp on his MWS. Wasn't any more noticeable than a Flash Hider (concussion wise) when you were shooting the gun.

[Faultline]

specopsscout and Markm, thanks for your Input! I am really on the fence on this. The MWS is a hell of a rifle but I really think (and wish) that it had a longer gas system like the KAC to mitigate recoil. I'm not down on the LMT system by any means and it is the nicest rifle I've ever owned. Just weighing the options. I do appreciate all input!

[domestique]

specopsscout and Markm, thanks for your Input! I am really on the fence on this. The MWS is a hell of a rifle but I really think (and wish) that it had a longer gas system like the KAC to mitigate recoil. I'm not down on the LMT system by any means and it is the nicest rifle I've ever owned. Just weighing the options. I do appreciate all input!

You could try a heavier buffer (XH 8 oz buffer) but they are not budget friendly at 125 bucks, and to be honest with you I didn't notice much of a difference.

I think your best and cheapest solution would be to reload or find someone to reload you some "light" 308 rounds (110-145 gr.) with a light charge for CQB distances. This would help control recoil and would keep flash down. The problem would be it would most likely have a different POI then your full power loads.

I've used a 125gr. reduced load for years in my 30-06 for whitetail. It helped reduce over-penetration and made follow up shots faster with reduced recoil.

[Bushytale]

I have been running a PWS FSC30 on my Bushmaster 16 inch 308 for about a year. I set it up with a Vltor RE-10/A5SR receiver extension, H3 buffer and Armalite recoil spring. It has a medium contour barrel, quad rail and a 1-4 for a total weight of 10.75 lbs. The combination shoots very flat and felt recoil is light. .An MWS with the FSC30 should be similar. I also think that a 308 indoors would be brutal with or w/o a comp!!!!!

[Failure2Stop]

specopsscout and Markm, thanks for your Input! I am really on the fence on this. The MWS is a hell of a rifle but I really think (and wish) that it had a longer gas system like the KAC to mitigate recoil. I'm not down on the LMT system by any means and it is the nicest rifle I've ever owned. Just weighing the options. I do appreciate all input!

Don't get too wrapped up in the gas system length thing.
Our port position is one part of a systematic approach, it is not the only way to get to the destination.

[henschman]

Im not convinced the difference between a compensated and uncompensated 308 indoors will be significant enough to matter. Either way you are effectively setting off a flash bang with each shot indoors. I keep peltors strapped to my HD gun.

Rick

I take it you've never been at an indoor range where somebody is shooting a comped rifle... especially a shorter one like most of these guys are talking about using. The difference is absolutely noticeable. Without ear pro it is the difference between ringing your bell for a little while, and bleeding out your ears with major permanent hearing damage. I've never done the latter myself, but I've seen it happen to guys who were exposed to that level of noise unprotected.

I used to have a FSC30 on one of my .308s (a 18.5"). I took it on a hog hunt and took several shots sans ear pro... never again! That's what caused me to go back to FHs on anything that might get taken into the field, whether hunting or 2A. The FSC is supposed to be one of the less obnoxious comps too, like the battlecomp. I didn't notice much difference when I had my plugs in, but there is definitely a much sharper pressure wave with the comp. there's really no way around it if it does what it's supposed to do.

[Faultline]

Don't get too wrapped up in the gas system length thing.
Our port position is one part of a systematic approach, it is not the only way to get to the destination.

Good info, much appreciated. If I had the scratch I'd have a KAC, no doubt.

[BooneGA]

I take it you've never been at an indoor range where somebody is shooting a comped rifle... especially a shorter one like most of these guys are talking about using. The difference is absolutely noticeable. Without ear pro it is the difference between ringing your bell for a little while, and bleeding out your ears with major permanent hearing damage. I've never done the latter myself, but I've seen it happen to guys who were exposed to that level of noise unprotected.

I used to have a FSC30 on one of my .308s (a 18.5"). I took it on a hog hunt and took several shots sans ear pro... never again! That's what caused me to go back to FHs on anything that might get taken into the field, whether hunting or 2A. The FSC is supposed to be one of the less obnoxious comps too, like the battlecomp. I didn't notice much difference when I had my plugs in, but there is definitely a much sharper pressure wave with the comp. there's really no way around it if it does what it's supposed to do.

I appreciate your assumptions, but I in fact have. Indoors a rifle going off (be it 5.56 or 7.62) without hearing protection was indiscernible to me. Both hurt badly. Only when I was wearing ear protection was the difference noticeable. Afterwards I began wearing Peltors full time while outside the wire.

Rick