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Thread: ATI M16 Complete Chrome Lined Bolt Carrier Group with Carpenter 158 Bolt

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    News Article:
    http://roc.democratandchronicle.com/...obal-arms-deal

    Criminal Complaint:
    http://roc.democratandchronicle.com/...2169548127.PDF

    ATI and another DiChario-owned company at the same site, AmChar Wholesale, did portray the companies as loose with their inventory of weapons. Court documents also suggest that an intermediary for ATI was purposefully blind to the fact that the magazines were manufactured in China, which makes them illegal for importation into the United States.
    Now...ahem. You owe me a beer, and Paul Buffoni some money for a BCG.

    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-B...up-auto-mp.htm

    You're welcome.

    ; )

    P.S. These are the types of dudes ATI deals with:

    A recent WikiLeaks release of confidential U.S. State Department cables cited an attempted sale to Libya of 130,000 Kalashnikov rifles by Hyde's company, York Guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PA PATRIOT View Post
    Claims its "Made in USA"
    I would save your money, there are better options out there.

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    I had no more interest in this ATI BCG then a cheap tool box spare should a bolt break while at a class or the range, never was intended for a serious use role hence the questions if the item was a POS or could handle some light duty back up use as a spare.
    We are all inclined to judge ourselves by our ideals; others, by their acts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PA PATRIOT View Post
    I had no more interest in this ATI BCG then a cheap tool box spare should a bolt break while at a class or the range, never was intended for a serious use role hence the questions if the item was a POS or could handle some light duty back up use as a spare.
    I, too, have always wanted two break two bolts in quick succession. Thanks for for finding me a way to do so under $70.

    Sarcasm aside, why would you ever buy a spare that's crappier quality than the thing it's replacing? Light duty? What is that, the second half of a carbine course so intensive that it broke a bolt? A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. Change the way you think about your weapon and it's components, would be my advice.

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    Its obviously not going to be a high-quality part. Not sure if it matters that they state the bolt is C158 and carrier is 8620.

    I wouldn't buy it, but i'm sure someone on a tight budget (or clueless) will purchase them, shoot 100rds a month, and be ok.

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    They're going to sell all that they have in their inventory. The upside is all of the "unreliable" ARs with these ATI BCGs in them that will flood the market in a year or two. I'll be buying just to part em out.

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    FYI, in this day and age, you can go on Alibaba and find "mil spec" BCG's.

    I would only buy a BCG from a known source. If you can't afford it, 1) save more money, and/or 2) don't spend as much money on other non-critical components of your weapon.

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    I needed a couple of spare parts bolts and felt like wasting a little money. I don't normally buy crap, but took a lark on two of these, as spares for range guns. For the price and purpose I will tolerate it when they fail. (If I ever need them)

    Since I actually bought a couple of them I thought I would post some high resolution pictures of them for you guys. Someone might see something in these pictures that gives them more of a clue. I don't know if they're C158 or not but they seem ok.



















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    Coming from a guy who watches a machine make bolts and carriers all day.... I don't see how it's possible to make these, and sell them for that amount of $$$$. That's not even hourly machine rate on a spindle in our shop.
    Founder and co-owner/operator at 2A-Armament

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmist View Post
    Coming from a guy who watches a machine make bolts and carriers all day.... I don't see how it's possible to make these, and sell them for that amount of $$$$. That's not even hourly machine rate on a spindle in our shop.
    Ahem...

    Quote Originally Posted by Outlander Systems View Post
    If it seems too good to be true...

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