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Thread: 20" AR worth it over a 16" Middy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanB View Post
    I feel strongly that 20" guns would be more popular if lightweight barrels were more common.
    Absolutely agree.

    Even more now that the market is saturated with 16" guns. People are looking for something new and interesting, and not everyone can go the route of NFA.
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    I would like a 20" but the A2 stock is too long. Maybe an A1 would be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncshooter18 View Post
    I would like a 20" but the A2 stock is too long. Maybe an A1 would be better.
    I think the A1 stock is much better than the A2 myself. The 5/8" shorter length makes a difference for a lot of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty_H View Post
    I really like your M16a4 clone a lot. What mag pouch is on your stock?
    I honestly cannot remember. It has been six years. All I remember is that I googled for a USMC M16A4 sling and I was led to this one. Of course, there are a few different slings the USMC has used and authorized for use. Specter Gear makes a mag pouch that is adaptable to a sling attachement similar to mine. Where ever I got mine, I got the whole setup from them. Sorry I could not be of more help. Time has a way of making me forget some things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post
    Agreed. An 18" melonite barrel with a lightweight profile and rifle length gas system is something I've been begging folks to build. It would sell like hotcakes because people have no idea how light they can be. My Rainier Arms mountain series gov profile 18" with rifle gas and KMR always makes people say "wow!".
    VooDoo makes a barrel like that, 625 gas block: http://www.voodooinnovations.com/18-...evo-ultra-lite they also make it with a 750 gas block: http://www.voodooinnovations.com/18-...evo-ultra-lite

    I'm very tempted to pick one up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junkie View Post
    VooDoo makes a barrel like that, 625 gas block: http://www.voodooinnovations.com/18-...evo-ultra-lite they also make it with a 750 gas block: http://www.voodooinnovations.com/18-...evo-ultra-lite

    I'm very tempted to pick one up.
    Holy shit. Seriously. Holy shit.

    The smaller gas block journal would allow the use of a lighter still .625" gas block.
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    I was under the impression that for most gas blocks the outer size is the same for .625 and .750. I've heard V7 is better.

    http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=977830 he seemed to like his 16.5 VooDoo barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade04 View Post
    I honestly cannot remember. It has been six years. All I remember is that I googled for a USMC M16A4 sling and I was led to this one. Of course, there are a few different slings the USMC has used and authorized for use. Specter Gear makes a mag pouch that is adaptable to a sling attachement similar to mine. Where ever I got mine, I got the whole setup from them. Sorry I could not be of more help. Time has a way of making me forget some things.
    FWIW I ran the Specter Gear buttstock mag pouch, and attached a padded VCAS to it. Admittedly I was a fobbit a fair fraction of the time, but it's plenty authentic in that regard.
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    I have one 20" varmit barrel but it's big, long, and heavy--even with a short handguard. If I just wanted to use it for target practice, then it'd be okay, but I have coyotes all over my property and just got used to a rifle I can sling over my shoulder and go through scrub brush with and a 14.5" pinned is substantially shorter and lighter.

    I do most of my shooting at 7000-9000 feet and haven't had accuracy issues/benefits at 200-250 yards.
    In the future, PMAGs will be the currency standard.

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    I love the 20 inch rifle. Used the M16A4 extensively in the Army and it worked well in combat. Not all engagements in Iraq were urban. Out in eastern Iraq in the farmlands the shots could easily be out at 300-500 meters. The longer barrel was a benefit there, especially since we were still rocking Aimpoints back then.
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