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    Quote Originally Posted by BravoCompanyUSA View Post
    Thank you G.

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    Thanks for taking the time to post that. Like many on here I like to build my own, so I appreciate your fast shipping and service as well as the quality of the product.

    I would like to inquire about maybe securing employment as a 'blemisher' or an 'upper receiver disassembler.'

    Seriously, thanks for taking the time to explain.

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    Go take a class with Chris, he shoots a KAC SR 15. Yes, he is sponsored by them, but he really likes the rifle whether they would or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TacMedic556 View Post
    I have never even seen a Wilson Combat AR in real life.
    My LGS has two, they're newer, but nice, the Noveske for $1750, and DDV7 for $1200 looked more appealing but to each his own
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will545 View Post
    I believe NutnFancy likes to operate with Rock River and Bushmaster.
    while I tend to agree with some of the guns Nutnfancy calls "awesome", he is hardly a Instructor, or someone who has seen rifle after rifle put through extreme stress
    I perfer black coffee in the morning, bourbon in evenings and spending money on sh*t I probably don't need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will545 View Post
    I believe NutnFancy likes to operate with Rock River and Bushmaster.
    I really hope that was sarcasm, because he wouldn't know a quality rifle if it hit him in the face, and is no where near a SME nor a respectful trainer/instructor.
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    Cool

    Kyle Defoor also runs BCM carbines.



    And apparently he builds them too.


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    I really think that BCM, Daniel Defense, LMT, Noveske, LaRue, Etc. etc. all come down to "what do you want...and who makes that configuration?"

    It seems that this is exactly what this thread confirms...SME's threw their wish-list together and picked a solid company that was willing to build it and had what they wanted. Different SME's want different things, and different companies specialize in said things. For example, one may want a lightweight Keymod rail...well, BCM has one. Etc.

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    Another factor to consider is the evolution of the M4/M16 industry. As the number of makers expanded folks had more options as do the instructors. Equipment that was acceptable 10 years ago may not be overshadowed by today's offerings. I do find it intresting that a large number of instructors have migrated to specific makers.

    I don't consider these guys celebrities. To me they are working professionals, scoping out their gear is just like asking your mechanic what kind of cars he recomends, or asking a professional carpenter what kind of hammer he recomends. I'm not saying there isn't some marketing or fanboyism going on, but most of these instructors have alot of experience and knowledge and we can definately should tap in to.

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    I have shot the Stoner designed AR style platform for forty-four years in one form or another as a combat decorated infantry Marine as a Police Officer and as a civilian.

    I have actually used this type rifle in combat. The new Noveske Rifleworks N4 Thunder Ranch AR rifle is the best example of this rifle I have ever owned over the last four plus decades. The design implemented by the NRW team is a combination of their knowledge of the tool and my knowledge and real world application of this tool. To some people this rifle might seem expensive, my response to that is yes and in the truest sense you get what you pay for.

    I own and use Noveske AR style rifles as they are the platform I teach with and even more importantly they are the rifle I would defend Heidi, Boo and myself with. I have worked on this now realized concept of the rifle for years and John Noveske is the person who listened to what I had to say and more importantly he was willing to build the rifle the way it should be built for serious applications. This concept will be copied by others in part and parcel in the future, but it will not be built better by anyone anywhere.

    Heidi and I are grateful and thrilled that John, Lorina, Sheri and the NRW team has stood with us to build this very best of the breed.

    My only regret is that I did not have this rifle forty-four years ago in combat, but that regret is tempered by the fact that I can and will gladly use this Noveske rifle for the rest of my teaching and shooting career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    I really think that BCM, Daniel Defense, LMT, Noveske, LaRue, Etc. etc. all come down to "what do you want...and who makes that configuration?"

    It seems that this is exactly what this thread confirms...SME's threw their wish-list together and picked a solid company that was willing to build it and had what they wanted. Different SME's want different things, and different companies specialize in said things. For example, one may want a lightweight Keymod rail...well, BCM has one. Etc.
    Exactly. And BCM has the largest variety of receivers on the market, so that helps, too. The bottom line in all of this is that there are a few brands out there that are of known quality.

    If you stick with BCM, Centurion, Colt, DD, LMT, and Sionics, you are going to be getting quality kit. If you need something a little more high end or specialized, there's HK, KAC, LaRue, Noveske, Wilson Combat, etc.

    Rainier Arms, Spike's, S&W, FN, and PSA may be alright on a case-by-case basis, and you should put a little more time and effort into the specs and checking the QC on these guns.

    I really can't think of another brand I'd be willing to trust.

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