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    I have never even seen a Wilson Combat AR in real life.

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    Who cares what someone else runs, ( or gets "endorsed" to run)Doesn't take too much research to figure out there are plenty of good rifle companies out there. Buy what you like, and what works for your style of shooting.
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    I had a class with Rob Trevino, of Evergreen Mountain Training, a couple of weeks ago. His rifle had a BCM upper, but I couldn't make out the lower.

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    I believe NutnFancy likes to operate with Rock River and Bushmaster.

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    Instructors on the record about rifle selection

    I guess I am strange, I spend my money on the things I like, not those things someone else likes, is paid to like or tells me to like.

    No disrespect intended, but I'm fairly certain most of the SME's didn't use BCM, DD, Wyndham or "most" of the other brands mentioned above, when they were active duty and asses were on the line.
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    Nothing strange about that, people should find what works for them and use it, not sheepishly follow what a "celebrity" endorses.

    Of course they'll use whats issued unless theyre in a high speed unit with an awesome CoC. Maybe their personal weapons were DD, BCM, etc, myself I liked the Colt M16A2s and M4s and FN M16A4 s the Marine Corps issued me. I started buying BCM and DD from what people on here and LF were saying about them, and found them to be excellent quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKGuns View Post
    I guess I am strange, I spend my money on the things I like, not those things someone else likes, is paid to like or tells me to like.

    No disrespect intended, but I'm fairly certain most of the SME's didn't use BCM, DD, Wyndham or "most" of the other brands mentioned above, when they were active duty and asses were on the line.

    You are likely 99.999% correct. They most likely used Colt and FN during those arduous times.

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    I am with Grant. The instructors / BTDT's worth their salt aren't going to put their reputation on the line for a piece of shit. It's just not gonna happen. At least as far as the ones I have attended training from and had in depth conversations with.

    There is no be all, end all. Pick a quality rifle and couple that with quality training. That will serve you better in the long run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    To my knowledge, none of the BCM GunFighters receive a check from BCM (even the instructors with signature rifles). Read no royalties. So we need to make sure it is clear that they endorse BCM without receiving a paycheck.



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    Thank you G.

    This is correct. We do not do "compensated endorsements". IMHO, it would be meaningless. The EAG and HSP rifles are royalty free.
    None of these men are paid for endorsements. You could not buy it at any price. We actually recently removed their personal testimonials about BCM from our website as it furthered this misnomer. http://www.bravocompanymfg.com/gunfighters/index.php

    They are given prototype rifles and accessories to T&E. Many of you have noticed BCM prototypes in their classes months and even years before they are ready for retail. So our development of new products takes longer but I feel the info from experienced trigger pullers is absolutely invaluable. We are truly indebted to them and can not thank them enough.

    As many of you already know, we have been working with many of them for a number of years. It was only recently we offered a web page to give their training companies additional exposure. And now we are working with them on the American Gunfighter short film series. Hoping to do a new short film every 2 months. http://www.bravocompanymfg.com/american_gunfighter/ Also doing monthly newsletters keeping folks informed of training opportunities.
    None of this is about selling more rifles or stocks. Its about being a part of something bigger than just yourself. Its about introducing new people to and promoting a culture of defensive training and the American warrior.

    Full disclosure: HSP has a marketing division led by Jon Chang and it is compensated for building the BCM website, new photography, etc. http://www.haleystrategic.com/marketing.php
    And we since the inception of Larry's Tactical TV, we have been a headline sponsor along with other great companies. http://www.youtube.com/user/VickersTacticalInc

    Thank you for your time,
    Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by cop1211 View Post
    Who cares what someone else runs, ( or gets "endorsed" to run)Doesn't take too much research to figure out there are plenty of good rifle companies out there. Buy what you like, and what works for your style of shooting.
    Because when multiple experts put hundreds of thousands of rounds through certain manufacture's rifles, we know that company produces quality stuff. That's why its easy to do the research you speak of. They go together.

    Its not just what they use, but also what they don't use. Their are a few companies that produce rifles that on paper could pass for a colt, but no reputable trainers use these brands to my knowledge. This info helps people make informed decisions.
    Last edited by MegademiC; 10-08-14 at 22:03.

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