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Thread: Hodge Defense AU Mod 2

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    I for one am extremely excited about this.

    I hope they sell matching receiver sets in AlLi. Also, that rail looks like a viable competitor to the BCM KMR assuming the AlLi rail is comparatively lighter than traditional aluminium.

    Competition is a good thing. As is innovation in metallurgy.

    Question: Can anybody who has handled one say if the handguard inside diameter is 1.5" or greater to allow for a suppressor? Doesn't look like it from the photos, but I can't be sure.

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    It would be very cool if they were to sell matching receiver sets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysimons View Post
    I think the question of necessary receiver strength is worth asking, the popularity on the Vltor MUR and how it has fared in documented kabooms is enough to convince me of the benefits of added strength of either material or dimensions. In the case of the AU Mod 2 it is both where you have a huge increase in strength with no weight increase.
    Why not just use the MUR? I'm at the point where I think AR's are light enough, no need to tinker with unproven material...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    Why not just use the MUR? I'm at the point where I think AR's are light enough, no need to tinker with unproven material...
    MUR is a great option, but being that the forged Al-Li in mil-spec reciever dimensions is probably as strong as the beefed up forged aluminum MUR, I would wager the Al-Li AU Mod 2, with its own beefed up dimensions, is even stronger than the MUR. All that strength for no increase in weight over a forged mil-spec upper is impressive. The only way to prove the material is to prove it. Bomb proof is Hodge Defense's modus operandi.

    Mig1nc, I don't think the rail has an inner diameter that would house a suppressor. It feels similar in circumference to an NSR or KMR, save for feeling like it was sculpted for your hand.

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    AlLI has been used quite extensively in airliner and helicopter airframes and has proven to be durable in those applications. It will be interesting to see how it performs as a rifle building material. I think it would make a great rail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnburglar View Post
    Grant-

    I think people get a little frustrated by others saying "I can't tell you why, just trust me it's great". It's like in middle school when your friends wouldn't tell you who had a crush on you.

    What I want to add to the thread: they say the new receivers are stronger. While it would be great if everything was as light as a feather, yet could survive in Jupiter's gravity.... Does anyone want or need a stronger receiver? Besides a 249 meeting an mrap door, Iv never seen the metals on any milspecrifle fail under normal use.
    I am not sure if anyone has read the article I read (on page 1), but the article has lots of info in it with more to come. So no one is telling anyone what you are saying.

    Be patient read the threads and wait.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeRed30 View Post
    Can you enlighten the rest of us who aren't "in the know"?
    The owner of the company is an extremely well connected guy that has done consulting work in the firearms industry for a very long time. Every person I respect knows him.

    I have only talked to him on the phone one time, but was impressed with his knowledge (doesn't happen often in this industry) and his interest to IMPROVE the AR platform. We need more people like this I think.


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    I posted this thread for those who are genuinely interested in this rifle and to have a discussion about it. I did not post it for naysayers and haters to clutter with BS. I wouldn't post BS in your thread and I ask that you don't post it in mine.

    I'm excited to get my hands on one of these in the future and I think the receiver sets will be awesome for the market. Either way, stronger/lighter is pretty much always better in my book.

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    I don't get why this gun draws so much ire. It's not going to hurt your BCM's value or standing in the community.
    "You people have too much time on your hands." - scottryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMS951 View Post
    There is a lot of wondering to be done here… apparently you are meant to just 'get it'. Unfortunately, especially with the lack of actual info am not one of those who 'get it'.
    -What are you looking for? You have been given corrosion, strength, and dimensional data, as well as the general alloy type.

    I am interested in new products and new materials being brought to market. What I am not interested in is a gun where I can not know what makes it 'special', I'm just meant to 'get it' and take other peoples word for it. Not where my money will go.
    -It's the only gun out there using LiAl. It has a Ti barrel nut. The small parts are all billet. The barrel is hammer forged. The BCG is a quality QPQ unit. The rail is slim, sexy, and light, and offered in MLOK or Keymod. The lower is, as you can see, a very nicely executed Ambi design.

    I would be interested if this material is worth while if other manufacturers will use it. I have a feeling its going to be cost prohibitive and not have a good cost benefit ratio
    I suspect it will retail similarly to the other weapons which offer similar "custom" type features (ambi lowers, "billet looking" uppers and lowers, although this one has the looks while being Forged), such as Noveske, LaRue, etc.

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