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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysimons View Post
    If you can't help yourselves to read I don't think anybody "in the know" will be able to enlighten you. Details have been published, make your own judgements, but stop with the whining that rightful information has been withheld from you. Some are too busy scoffing at a new company to see what is in front of them.

    I think the question of necessary receiver strength is worth asking, the popularity on the Vltor MUR and how it has fared in documented kabooms is enough to convince me of the benefits of added strength of either material or dimensions. In the case of the AU Mod 2 it is both where you have a huge increase in strength with no weight increase.
    With this material, there is also less flex, which is good for those hanging cans on the end of the barrel, increases bolt life (as was discovered with Block II when they went to FF rails), and in general, is just a darn good thing with zero downside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mig1nc View Post
    I for one am extremely excited about this.

    I hope they sell matching receiver sets in AlLi. Also, that rail looks like a viable competitor to the BCM KMR assuming the AlLi rail is comparatively lighter than traditional aluminium.

    Competition is a good thing. As is innovation in metallurgy.

    Question: Can anybody who has handled one say if the handguard inside diameter is 1.5" or greater to allow for a suppressor? Doesn't look like it from the photos, but I can't be sure.
    I do not believe you will be fitting a suppressor inside the rail. Yes, I've handled one.
    No, the rail is not as light as the KMR, yes, the Hodge rail is a lot stronger. Weight/strength trade off, but it's no whale by ANY stretch, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    I don't get why this gun draws so much ire.
    Public schooling...

    ...and the unwillingness (often deliberate) to push one's self past the obvious limits of state-mandated standardized testing.
    Contractor scum, AAV

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    The owner of the company is an extremely well connected guy that has done consulting work in the firearms industry for a very long time. Every person I respect knows him.

    I have only talked to him on the phone one time, but was impressed with his knowledge (doesn't happen often in this industry) and his interest to IMPROVE the AR platform. We need more people like this I think.


    C4
    Jim Hodge is a great guy, and it was a pleasure meeting him. I didn't stop there, though. I dug around as well, prior to meeting the man, and I could not talk to anyone without them saying "Oh, yeah, great guy!" etc. To say he is "well connected" is an understatement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSantoro View Post
    Public schooling...

    ...and the unwillingness (often deliberate) to push one's self past the obvious limits of state-mandated standardized testing.

    It's deeper than that, I think...


    This forum, as I understand, has been around a while. As have most others. The "Black Rifle" became and continues to become more and more popular. However, there was a "dark age" on the civilian side. Just ask Pat Rogers. He will tell you how many times he had to stop a class to fix all the loose gas keys, etc. "back in the day".

    So we got things like "The Chart" as a way of trying to "vette" a rifle. To make sure it wasn't a POS, if you will.

    The Chart and other guides like it were a great starting place. They kept the DPMS and Olympic Arms owners on notice and they staked the gas-keys themselves, or bought other rifles.

    It was basically the "civilian mil-spec", if you will. People came to trust that if a rifle had certain things, it was g2g, based on a "standard".

    Well...

    ...times have changed. New products are coming out and improvements are being made in materials and implementation at breakneck pace. QA/QC has taken a GIANT leap forward as many industry professionals are ALSO shooters, or are now at least willing to consult shooters. Top tier companies are producing "new stuff" that isn't junk...because they consult or are shooters who will thrash the gear before releasing it. The platform is matured GREATLY in the last decade. Advancements are really getting under way.


    However...some people are still stuck in "the Chart Era". Think of it...and I am not at ALL trying to get religious (so lets just view this within the framework of the written article itself and not theologically!), it's just the best way I can make the allegory, as the OT vs. the NT Jews. Back in the OT, there were a TON of laws, etc. to keep everything on the straight and narrow. In the NT, a lot of those laws were done away with via fulfillment as superflous ("X number of steps allowed on the Holy Day, etc.")

    Well...the AR world is somewhat at the same point...many rules that kept things straight are now hampering or superfluous, if doggedly stuck to.

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    If people will pay 4k for a Costa larue you'd be crazy to think people wouldnt pay 2k for this.I think if this comes out around 1650-1700$ street price it'll be a winner once some reviews gets posted.


    I think at 2k it's got too much competition with the sr15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 03scgt View Post
    If people will pay 4k for a Costa larue you'd be crazy to think people wouldnt pay 2k for this.I think if this comes out around 1650-1700$ street price it'll be a winner once some reviews gets posted.


    I think at 2k it's got too much competition with the sr15.

    I haven't seen this AR yet, but from what I know, there is probably nothing near it in the 2K range (read nothing beats it for the money).



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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    I haven't seen this AR yet, but from what I know, there is probably nothing near it in the 2K range (read nothing beats it for the money).



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    I have never held another m4 with mod 2 level of fit and finish. Function I cannot speak on, as I have not shot one yet, but I bet it runs...

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    An AR with receivers forged from a lighter stronger alloy, manufactured under the aegis of a man like Jim Hodge? Yes, please
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    The only competition to the AU Mod 2 is Knight's SR15, IMO.
    This will not be an inexpensive rifle though. A complete Noveske Gen 3 rifle is running close to $2500, you can bet the Mod 2 will be every bit of that.

    I would love to see the Mod 2 with the AXTS Adac pin, THAT, would be supremely awesome.

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