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    New SBR and Optics Conundrum

    Howdy,

    For my many years in the Army, I ran Aimpoints. I love them. I currently run an Aimpoint PRO on my Daniel Defense and enjoy it immensely. I just got an SBR to pursue more CQB training, and, in all honesty, because I wanted to; I've wanted one for a long time. It has a 10/5. Since it was an SBR, I really wanted to give an EOTECH a trying. I was able to get an XPS2-2 (The two dot reticle) for a song.

    I don't know much about the XPS2-2. The second dot obviously looks like a viable method of distance shot compensation. I haven't done the maths yet, but I am sure I could figure out the nuances in a short afternoon. My only concern is that some people are saying that the dual dot reticle is best suited for a magnifiers.

    I have a few questions:

    1) Is the EOTech best suited for the DDM4v7. I personally doubt it. I wanted the EOTech for the FOV on an SBR for CQB purposes.
    2) When zeroing the EOTech, is it the same as any other teach? If you adjust windage, is windage adjusted for both dots simultaneously (I hope so)
    3) What are the biggest benefits of the reticle with two dots? I don't find it a distraction. It really depends on the zero I select, but it appears that once I range a target, determine bullet drop and select the correct dot.

    I am familiar with BDCs on long range rifles, but this is a much more simplistic neasr

    Is there anything I should know prior to running a dual dot EOTech.
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    First off, there are some very good sticky threads here on zero theory, and you should definitely read them, they helped me out a lot. I have the same optic mounted on a 16", and through experimentation found that the two dot is actually pretty versatile. using the Army standard 25 / 300m zero, I found that if you zero the Lower dot at 25m, the top (center) dot will be pretty much right on from 75-150m or so, as the bullet is at the peak of its trajectory.

    Conversely, you can zero the top dot at 100m, and try various ranges to confirm what range that zeroes the lower dot at.

    I never found myself in "need" of a magnifier, as the dots are extremely fine (1moa?) and therefore don't cover the target as much as some other optics.

    when you make adjustments, it shifts the whole reticle pattern (large outer ring and both dots) so no worries there. For CQB, you can just use the large outer reticle for quick acquisition, realizing that it will hit below the second dot at very short ranges. Hope this is helpful, and enjoy your optic!

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    I just got the Eotech XPS2-0 (one dot in the ring), and love it. I really expected to hate the Eotech, and really just bought it as a toy, but it's becoming my favorite.

    Take your load of choice, which should be something in the Mk262 realm, and go find out where that second dot is ranged at when you zero the first dot at 100.

    I like the idea of the second dot, but got the best price on the regular reticle. We shoot enough long range where I'm pretty instinctive on hold over out to 300.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    I just got the Eotech XPS2-0 (one dot in the ring), and love it. I really expected to hate the Eotech, and really just bought it as a toy, but it's becoming my favorite.
    More so than Aimpoints? Been holding out for the T2s but the EXPS intrigues me for whatever reason and I keep hearing positive things.

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    The EXPS series is GTG and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another. I ran an EXPS2 on my SBR for a while, but sold it because I wanted one with NV capability. My next build will be wearing an EXPS3-2. I think it's a perfect optic solution for SBRs and close-quarter applications.
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    My solution, set it and forget it. Ranges well and is a slight handicap under 25 meters

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    Quote Originally Posted by t1tan View Post
    More so than Aimpoints? Been holding out for the T2s but the EXPS intrigues me for whatever reason and I keep hearing positive things.
    I don't run any T1s due to the price. I just can't wrap my head around 600+ for an RDS without a mount. I think the T1 is a better fighting/combat sight. But for as low as $450 and no need to buy a mount? The XPS are a good option.

    I greatly prefer the analog switching on the Aimpoints. The digital mushy buttons and the timeout on the Eotech don't inspire the greatest confidence, but once you're up and going, the EO is a good shooting sight.
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    Is Vortex out of the question for you?


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    I have two SBRs, one with an EXPS Eotech and the other with a T-1. I strongly prefer the Eotech over the T-1.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    I have two SBRs, one with an EXPS Eotech and the other with a T-1. I strongly prefer the Eotech over the T-1.
    I could never grasp that until buying an EO. I honestly bought it so I could say I didn't like it based on actual use, rather than just looking through someone else's. But now the big ugly turd has grown on me quite a bit.
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