New SBR and Optics Conundrum

[jcshelto]

After reading this thread, I am glad I snagged the deal I did. I think the 65MOA circle and two dots is a pretty cool setup, even for an SBR; it gives me a nice reference point (bottom of circle) for extremely close range.

The range and some courses will tell which I prefer, but the EOTech seems very nice so far.

[markm]

I tried dry fire drilling that bottom of the circle method at 5ish yards in the house... I'm just so hard coded at holding over with Irons and Aimpoints that my brain slows down trying to reconcile 1. finding the bottom of the circle and 2. making sure I hold it on target instead of over.

I'm not against that method... it's just not what I'm used to.

[SW CQB 45]

When you all say the EO growing on you or you prefer the EO over the T/H1……what are you referring to?

I am somewhat in the same boat…..I have three personal Aimpoints T1 4moa, T1 2moa, and H1 and my duty is an older Comp M2 and I feel I am slowing down in getting off the first shot. Yeah driving a desk has a lot to do with it, but I had an original EO (long one) and it failed on me, they replaced the circuitry and I sold it.

You all are making me think I need to try the XPS2.

So those with the both….do you see an improvement in getting the dot on target quicker with the EO?

for a rough sight alignment up close, I would think the 65 MOA ring and the big window will be lighting fast.

anything else you see as an improvement, I would appreciate it.

TIA

[markm]

The big ring and dot are quick to pick up for sure. With no downside on a longer range, aimed, slow fire shot. As bulky as the EO is... when looking through it, your target is less occluded by knobs and batter compartments.

If I buy another one, I'll go EXPS to get the taller optic that will work with fixed irons. The XPS is a little low. It works good with flip ups, but would probably be a pain with my normal cutdown carry handle rear sight.

Another thing I like is that it runs on 123a batts. So the spare batts I keep in my stock or where ever are interchangeable with my sight and light.

[Hmac]

I prefer the EXPS models because I prefer lower third co-witness, like the quick-detach lever, and need side buttons because I occasionally use a magnifier. I don't find the Eotechs particularly bulky compared to my Aimpoint PRO, especially considering that BAK sticking off to the side of the PRO.
If the price of the EXPS is a concern, consider the OPMOD at Optics Planet. It's an EXPS3 with the NV button disabled. Otherwise, same specs. It's a better deal at $529/$549 if you don't need night vision. I'm not sure what the difference between the Eotech EXPS3 and EXPS2 is, but I note that that is a difference in construction, with the Eotech EXPS2 only having a submersibility to 10 feet. I realize getting wet isn't a big deal, but the difference in depth ratings makes me wonder about the other aspects of construction.

http://www.opticsplanet.com/l3-eotec...2-0-opmod.html

[markm]

I like that one.

[SW CQB 45]

thanks for the info.

I like that one too!!!!!

now to find some cash!

[jcshelto]

Zeroed and tested the gun today--absolutely awesome. I think I am sold on the two dot reticle. It takes away the guesswork with the aimpoint. Experience can solve the issue, but I find the two dot an elegant solution. I especially like the 7m bottom of the circle aiming.

[markm]

now to find some cash!

No kidding.

Zeroed and tested the gun today--absolutely awesome. I think I am sold on the two dot reticle. It takes away the guesswork with the aimpoint. Experience can solve the issue, but I find the two dot an elegant solution. I especially like the 7m bottom of the circle aiming.

I'd love to try a 2 dot out at our long range shooting spot.... just to see at what range POI is out of a few guns. I do like Bullet Drop reticles.

[TehLlama]

I'd love to try a 2 dot out at our long range shooting spot.... just to see at what range POI is out of a few guns. I do like Bullet Drop reticles.

Just makes me wonder if L3 could actually put a BDC tree (something like the NF LV-Reticle) on the holosight as an option, and bundle that package with a QD magnifier. It wouldn't have to be much, but I'm sure there's a market for that.

Overall, I still prefer the single dot 65MOA type holosight reticle, I just tried too many times on N-cell variants to really want to invest back in them. They run really awesome, but I'm exactly as quick with micro aimpoints now from cumulative time spent running them.