New SBR and Optics Conundrum

[Singlestack Wonder]

I too have used the ACOG TA44SR-10. Perfectly clear reticle. The 1.5x was actually an advantage at both close and distant targets. Only drawback is shooting from a dark area into a bright area. Illumination disappears, tritium is not bright enough, and the black reticle is difficult to see. If Trijicon would produce an LED version at a reasonable price, there would be a legit competitor to the RDS market.

[nimdabew]

I'm an EXPS2 user also. I don't see a downside to EOTech's.

If EOTech would get their shit together, and I was designing the thing... Well, first it would have an 8 hour on setting and a motion activated setting. I would also lower the EXPS about .1" from where it is now. Besides that, I think it is a near ideal sight except it is a bit on the chunky (size and weight) for those that care. I have thrown an old XPS out of a truck, ran it over, smash it against a tree repeaditly, shot it with a shotgun twice (or three times), and then washed in with a hose to get the mud off. The thing that broke was the ADM mount which caused it to loose zero. The sight itself was fine.

[Hmac]

If EOTech would get their shit together, and I was designing the thing... Well, first it would have an 8 hour on setting and a motion activated setting. I would also lower the EXPS about .1" from where it is now. Besides that, I think it is a near ideal sight except it is a bit on the chunky (size and weight) for those that care.

I note that my Aimpoint PRO weighs exactly 13 oz, compared to the stated weight of an EXPS2 which weighs 11.2 ounces or my EXPS3 which weight 11.4 oz. As to chunkiness...their ain't nuthin' svelte about the PRO, especially with that big ass knob sticking off to the side. Might also be worth noting that if you turn the EXPS2 sight on by pressing the UP brightness button, it stays on for 8 hours.

[nimdabew]

I note that my Aimpoint PRO weighs exactly 13 oz, compared to the stated weight of an EXPS2 which weighs 11.2 ounces or my EXPS3 which weight 11.4 oz. As to chunkiness...their ain't nuthin' svelte about the PRO, especially with that big ass knob sticking off to the side. Might also be worth noting that if you turn the EXPS2 sight on by pressing the UP brightness button, it stays on for 8 hours.

I will hold the sarcasm and say that a 4/8 power button is different than my wanted 8/movement button. Ditch the 4 hour all together.

[markm]

I will hold the sarcasm and say that a 4/8 power button is different than my wanted 8/movement button. Ditch the 4 hour all together.

Yeah... not sure what the 4 hour is supposed to accomplish. Motion would be nice.. and default to last setting too. I have that motion activate on my chinese holosun, and it's kind of cool.

[Hochsitz]

Even motion activation is normally associated with at least a brief time limit from 5 to 30 minutes of no movement or vibration before shutdown. When lying prone I can sometimes watch my scope illumination shut off after 5 minutes but even a finger tap on the stock will wake it back up. Do you guys have a strong feeling on how long you think the motionless period should be before shutdown? Hint: if it was zero the thing would constantly flicker during use like a thermostat with no hysteresis.

[Hmac]

I will hold the sarcasm and say that a 4/8 power button is different than my wanted 8/movement button. Ditch the 4 hour all together.

I will hold sarcasm too and observe that you said "Well, first it would have an 8 hour on setting...". It does.

[markm]

Even motion activation is normally associated with at least a brief time limit from 5 to 30 minutes of no movement or vibration before shutdown. When lying prone I can sometimes watch my scope illumination shut off after 5 minutes but even a finger tap on the stock will wake it back up. Do you guys have a strong feeling on how long you think the motionless period should be before shutdown? Hint: if it was zero the thing would constantly flicker during use like a thermostat with no hysteresis.

My holosun is 8 hours just as if you'd manually turned it on. I just pick it up and slap the side of the gun.

[Outlander Systems]

LASIK...'nuff said.

If a single red dot it too much of a problem, a big old honking Eotech holographic image ain't going to be much better, just more to "bloom" for you.

Truth.

While my vision isnt bad enough to justify lenses or LASIK, I can't use electronic red dots anymore. The EOTech turns into a red pile of spaghetti and the Aimpoints turn into a comet.

The only optics my eyes can see crisply are Trijicon ACOGs and Accupoints.

[jcshelto]

I've been shooting more and more with the XPS2-2 and find it more and more intuitive and useful. I zeroed the center dot at 25M (1.2 inch low to emulate 50M zero--not ideal, but I haven't been out to a larger range yet). I believe the second dot is approximately 8 MOA lower (Please correct me if I am wrong), which would make it suitable for ranges from 300M to 500M, though at those ranges, I usually use magnified optics or irons; I rarely use an RDS at those ranges. I also don't feel comfortable putting a magnifier on an SBR--its like using a hammer as a screwdriver. That is why I was initially considering running the Aimpoint on the SBR and the Eotech with magnifier on my Daniel Defense DDM4V7. But the Eotech really shines on the SBR; it is so visually comfortable and unobtrusive

The Eotech is great for distance estimation, its use a BDC, the speed of target acquisition in close quarters and the 2-2, especially, for its versatility. Overall, though, I still trust the Aimpoint more. If I had to pick only one optic, especially for , it would be the Aimpoint.

Eotech on the 16 inch AR with magnifier and Aimpoint PRO on the SBR? Each setup has its own advantages; my indecision on this matter is paralyzing.