JB2000, I didnt get a rear site other than the one in the carry handle.
I can see that the key is staked very well, but I only see an f on the both face. Do I need to remove it from the carrier to see the MP marking ?
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JB2000, I didnt get a rear site other than the one in the carry handle.
I can see that the key is staked very well, but I only see an f on the both face. Do I need to remove it from the carrier to see the MP marking ?
Mauser, you need to pull the bolt carrier out and remove the bolt from the carrier (refer to the manual or google up tutorials on how to do this, very simple), then look on the bolt for a small AA stamp on one side and MP on the other.
The carry handle is your rear sight. Very likely its probably an LMT handle, which is definitely G2G. Separate tags on the upper and lower with the lower tag checked is normal.
The only real question I have is; why did it have 2 PMags and a USGI manual? Those are the only red flags I really see about the deal so far. LMTs that Ive seen factory assembled come with 1 USGI (Okay) and an LMT printed manual with the company info on it. Don't be to quick to sweat it yet. The dealer may have just sold you an upper and lower that are both all LMT (still OK), or it might actually be a factory matched (better even).
Worse case scenario is that it was just an upper and lower with an after market BCG, CH and A3 (even that can still can be straightened out). Honestly, I can't see adding a SOPMOD and then screwing you on the other stuff, but I don't trust many gun show sellers very much.
When all else fails, call LMT and give them your serial number. They can tell you exactly how that gun was sold to the dealer.
M of S thanks,
I just emailed LMT with serial # to ask about it. I was just a little concerned that the dealer lied when I asked if the rifle came complete from LMT.
I will check the bolt later tonight,
Good deal.
If you did not get a manual, black sling and a USGI Alum. Mag, this is a dealer put together weapon (not a factory built weapon.
This can be bad (depending on the dealer). Some dealers shaft the customer by putting a NON-LMT BCG in the weapon. They also cut corners on the HG's, stock, Charging handle, etc.
Also, LMT uppers DO NOT come from the factory with HG's installed. So the dealer most likely bought cheap HG's and put them on.
C4
I've built three LMT uppered M4's so far. One was a 10.3" the other two were 14.5". None would run with anything over a carbine buffer. Now I admit that was shooting WWB ammo. The 10.3" carbine actually needed a reduced power action spring to function with WWB.
I think if you plan on running them with full power 5.56 ammo, maybe a heavier buffer would work, but with any cheaper practice ammo, stick with the carbine buffer.
I believe that LMT makes their barrels with smaller than spec gas ports. This may be an attempt to increase service life by allowing the user to progressively upgrade to heavy buffers as the gas port erodes. It may also be to allow the Mk18 to function with a suppressor. I don't know for sure.
I heard from LMT today, and its not a LMT complete rifle. I also talked with the dealer and his story changed he now says he got it as a trade from another dealer. He said as long as it wasnt fired I could send it back for a refund.
I will ship it UPS but since I paid cash I dont know if I should trust he will send me a check or if I should send it C.O.D. Does anyone have any avice on the C.O.D. shipment? I dont want to piss the guy off and not have him accept it.
I still would like to get an LMT, any avice on dealers or should I just order direct and have the lower shipped to my local dealer?
Thanks again everyone for your help and answers.
Good news! The dealer( Highland arms) is a stand up guy. He said he got took on a dealer trade with this rifle, so he gave me a full promt refund and even covered my return shipping.
In the mean time I ordered a complete LMT rifle from Grant at G&R and it came in today. The bolt, carrier, and charging handle are diferent than the rifle I returned. On the returned weapon these parts were not LMT.
Thanks guys for the straight talk pointing a noob in the right direction. My local range is still closed for repairs, so it will be a few weeks before I can shoot it.
Maus
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