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Thread: New Rifle, First Range Trip but Only 25 Yards

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    Quote Originally Posted by snakedoctor View Post
    I recently tried a 50yd zero shot at 10yds. You're POI should be 1.9" below your POA. If you can get a tight group at 10yds you'll be dead on at 50 and 200.
    I would recommend to confirm your zero at a longer range when given the chance. If you're going for the 50/200 zero, I would strongly recommend fine tuning your zero if/when you get the chance to shoot 200. Those small compromises we make zeroing at close ranges really start to show themselves downrange at 150+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snakedoctor View Post
    I recently tried a 50yd zero shot at 10yds. You're POI should be 1.9" below your POA. If you can get a tight group at 10yds you'll be dead on at 50 and 200.
    This is not good advice.
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    You are overthinking things in my opinion. Lots of AR shooting is done inside of 75' and there is nothing wrong with that. Your iron sights are not ultra precise instruments and you can get plenty of good practice familiarizing yourself with your new gun including not just sight-in, but handling and function as well.

    The closer the range, the tighter you should expect your groups to be, so it is possible to challenge yourself at almost any distance. Go shoot the thing!
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    If your sights have a 1/2 MOA adjustment, use these targets at 25 yards (the difference between yards and meters is not of concern):

    http://home.comcast.net/~j_colt123/I...get%2050Ma.pdf



    What you are doing here is aiming center mass on the silhouette and adjusting you bullet impacts to fall into the hash-marked circle. This will give you a rough 50/200 yard zero.


    I would also second verifying zero at the correct range when you have the opportunity. The zero targets I created are based off of generalized ammo and sight height combinations. They will get you very close, but different setups and ammo can yield different POIs at the desired zero range.

    Links to my zero targets are in my signature line.
    Last edited by thecolter; 11-08-14 at 18:57.

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    My advice, FWIW: Don't poo-poo "only" a 25 yard range. Work on putting rounds through the same hole, with your irons, from that distance, first from the bench to make sure your sights are zeroed and dead on, then do it from the offhand position. It will pay off for you as you get out beyond 25 yards.

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    I'll use the 25 yard slot if that is all that is open. I've been known to shoot .308 at it before - who cares, its still fun! Some shooting is better than no shooting, especially if it is a new rifle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    This is not good advice.
    Zeroed and confirmed. What makes this bad advise?
    Last edited by snakedoctor; 11-08-14 at 22:11.
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    It's bad advice because it's easy to shoot though the same bullet hole at 10 yards even when your fundamentals suck, so you can deceive yourself into thinking your shooting and zero is pretty solid. Stretch that zero out to 200/300 yards and reality sets in real fast. Whenever possible you'll want to confirm your zero at the distance you are actually zeroing for.

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    I guess Todd Hodnett and Frank have it all wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by thecolter View Post
    Links to my zero targets are in my signature line.
    I believe I wound up using your targets. Not the one you posted here. But one from another thread (if it was you). So thanks!

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