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Thread: New Rifle, First Range Trip but Only 25 Yards

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    Oh yeah always. Problem is with a class a year it is hard to keep the skills sharp
    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    Don't count on anything you don't sleep with attached to your body to be present when you have to fight for your life.
    I will never get to train as much as I want to. So when I do I need to make it count.
    F@ck Yolo. Bangarang!

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post
    When you get comfortable with basic marksmanship, manipulation of your carbine and funds are available, I suggest taking a basic carbine course from a reputable instructor.
    Absolutely. I'm trying to find one in my area that doesn't require all sorts of additional gear/equipment that I don't have.

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    Also, I do have a 1-6x scope on the way. But I'm going to focus on using the irons for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourT6and2 View Post
    If 1.5-2.0 MOA is "acceptable," why is 4 MOA "better than most" and 8 MOA "reasonable"?

    Or are you saying XM193 has a variation of 1.5-2.0 MOA and that shooting 4 MOA at 100 yards with this ammo is tough. And 8 MOA is par for the course?

    In any event, I'm not sure if my barrel is "service grade" or not, or whether my trigger is "mil" or not. Barrel is Noveske CHF 16". Trigger is ALG Defense ACT.
    The Noveske CHF barrel is a service grade barrel. The ALG trigger is an improved mil trigger but not a target trigger. XM193 is service grade ammunition. None of the three were manufactured to shoot single hole groups at 100 yds. If you could clamp your gun in a vise, remotely pull the trigger and get 2 MOA groups it would be considered to have average mechanical accuracy. If the gun with no input from you can shoot 2 MOA and with you shooting it will produce 4 MOA groups it shows that you can hold 2 MOA. I think most of us agree that is better than average. I never said 8 MOA was par for any course... I said that an 8 MOA goal is reasonable. You need to quit trying to the pick fly shit out of a pile of pepper and listen to what we are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourT6and2 View Post
    I tried the 90-degree bent arm thing to see where the stock falls. With the stock extended all the way out, I still have to bend my wrist sharply to grab the pistol grip. If I let my wrist fall naturally my palm is almost past the grip.
    Hey FourT6and2, I feel like you're talking about the grip angle of the pistol grip, and not so much the actual stock adjustment. Check out the Bravo Company gunfighter grip, it has a more vertical angle than the Magpul grip that's on your rifle. Magpul makes the K2 to do the same thing. Think 1911 grip angle vs Glock grip angle, just more exaggerated.

    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCMGU...rips-s/160.htm

    http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG522/grips

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdkiller View Post
    Hey FourT6and2, I feel like you're talking about the grip angle of the pistol grip, and not so much the actual stock adjustment. Check out the Bravo Company gunfighter grip, it has a more vertical angle than the Magpul grip that's on your rifle. Magpul makes the K2 to do the same thing. Think 1911 grip angle vs Glock grip angle, just more exaggerated.

    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCMGU...rips-s/160.htm

    http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG522/grips
    That's part of it, so one of those grips might help, thanks! But it's also that I need a little more extension in the stock too. I got one of the Magpul extended butt pads which might give me the little bit of extra space I need too.
    Last edited by FourT6and2; 11-11-14 at 09:57.

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    No problem. I know I had the same feeling of pinching/just not right with the traditional angle, especially when squaring up to the target.

    Are you basing your length requirements off of benching the gun, or practicing standing/varied positions at your house?

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdkiller View Post
    Are you basing your length requirements off of benching the gun, or practicing standing/varied positions at your house?
    Both. Granted, I need more actual shooting time too.

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    Obviously it's a lot of preference, but at 6'0 I only run my stocks 2-3 clicks out for most situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdkiller View Post
    Obviously it's a lot of preference, but at 6'0 I only run my stocks 2-3 clicks out for most situations.
    I'm 5'11", and the second or third single thing that most improved my overall performance with a carbine was taking the stock out to full extension.
    And that is with the Magpul .70 enhanced buttpad on the STR.
    Not trying to be argumentative, just noting that folks generally are able to more readily attain a higher level of performance with a more extended stock and an aggressive, athletic/combative stance.
    We got diverted into trying to use M4s/Mk18s like MP5s/MP5-SDs for a while, and outside of a few areas, I believe that it hindered the progression of the community.

    Sorry for the diatribe, nothing personal.
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