Silencer Permit

[VA_Dinger]

I wouldn't hesitate to put the K model on a 10.5".

Any problems? How many rounds through it in testing?

I based what I said on this:

M4FA556-BK:
5.56 mm Fast-Attach™ High Endurance Sound Suppressor

Designed for 5.56X45 mm assault rifles with barrels at least 11.5" long
Compensator/adapters for the M16/M4 carbine and other weapons
No weapon modifications — simply remove the factory compensator and install the SureFire compensator/adapter


http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/.../517/sesent/00

[VA_Dinger]

Steve, thanks for the heads up on the "K" model. It looks like Surefire really needs to update their website. The full model number is FA556K. A little research over on 10-8 helped also.

[bigbore]

The 11.5" length is basically a CYA for the maker regarding warranty claims. There is only 1 brand of suppressor that I wount not recommend putting on a barrel shorter than 11.5".

That said, I'd be hesitant to shoot any long bullets(75-77gr) from a 10.5" w/suppressor that I had to pay for. Just another reason, I dont see any benefit to a 10.5" when you can get an 11.5"


I've probably only put about 1K rounds through the suppressor, I dont have a single complaint or thing I would change.


If you're setting aside over $1K for a suppressor I suggest doing a bunch of homework to make sure you are getting what you want.

[DBautista]

If you're setting aside over $1K for a suppressor I suggest doing a bunch of homework to make sure you are getting what you want.

This one of the main reasons why I am not purchasing the can. Sales tax and Tax Stamp will add over 250+ dollars!!!

I pretty sure on the YHM, but looking at SWR and AAC...

[Master Blaster]

good luck dealing with Surefire- we were at Shot Show talking to a Surefire rep about their cans.. 3 of us with cash money in hand S.O.T. stamp, FFL-- the rep. would not tell us how much they cost, would not take an order, anything.
so good luck.
the YHM is kind of loud
Gemtech is a good

[mfingar]

Fortunately, it's much faster than a SBR Form 1 (at the moment).

Steps:

1. Buy the suppressor (if you buy from an out-of-state dealer, have it transferred to your Class-3 dealer on a Form 3...the dealers handle that, similar to a firearms transfer)

2. Once your Class 3 dealer has it in their possession, They'll provide you with a Form 4.

3. Assuming you're filing as an individual, get the CLEO's signature, passport photos (2 ea), Fingerprint Cards (2 ea) and Citizenship forms together, along with a $200 tax check, and give it all to your dealer...they'll finalize and mail the form in. If you're filing under a Corporation, or Trust, the paperwork is streamlined.

Either way,
The check should cash within 2 weeks and the paperwork should clear about 3-4 weeks after that.

[SuicideHz]

Try going the Trust route. I read the Trust thread on *sigh* AR15.com and started one. As soon as Doug ships my Matrix 9 to my local C3, I'll fill out the next set of forms and hopefully it will be the now typical 30 days!

[Les C.]

Try going the Trust route. I read the Trust thread on *sigh* AR15.com and started one. As soon as Doug ships my Matrix 9 to my local C3, I'll fill out the next set of forms and hopefully it will be the now typical 30 days!

I'm considering a revocable living trust for my NFA goodies, can you go into a little detail on how this works ??? Thanks in advance.

[SuicideHz]

Basically you use Quicken Willmaker 2006 and and select "living will" and then just fill in the blanks. It will ask you your full name, city, state, who you want to list as the trustee, the beneficiaries, etc.

It will then put together a 6 page document that you can print out and get notarized. There is also a shorter form you can send in with your Form4 or whatever.

Basically a Revocable Living Trust is like a company- IT is the owner of the NFA item and you as the trustee are the human being responsible for it (I guess that's how you'd put it.) The RLT has no hands to fingerprint, no face to photograph and no background to run a check on. So, that cuts the paperwork time down to 30 or so days.

There is a 14+ page thread on the other site. I'd like to get over and search for it, but I'm banned and can't search...

We need to post that info here...

[Trey-W]

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=17&t=199942