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Thread: Any real drawbacks to using a muzzle brake over a flash hider on a fighting carbine?

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    Too loud for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanB View Post
    Too loud for me.
    There's that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RD62 View Post
    but the flash suppression capability I would ASSUME would be somewhat less than a dedicated FS. However some flash suppression would be better than none and the ability to quickly deliver a fusillade of rounds accurately on target would seem to more than balance the equation, so to speak. Anyone know what the muzzle blast/noise is like from the PWS offering?


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    As far as noise, it is loud, but it's not like A2's, Vortex's, Phantom's, or KX3's are quiet either. Use ear pro and you'll be fine. However, side muzzle blast is an issue if you're shooting next to someone's head indoors like USMC03.

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    Cool. Looks like it suppresses the flash pretty well. Is there a comparison of the dB values of various breaks perpendicular to the barrel? Which are loudest? How do they compare to traditional flash suppressors? A2, Phantom, Vortex, Blackout, etc?


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    It all comes down to your definition of the word "tactical" and your employment of the weapon.

    When it comes to shooting indoors, everything sucks. If you aren't comfortable with loud bangs, put on some kind of hearing protection. Not that the concept of hearing protection is very tactical or sexy, but the fact is that gunfights are loud. Most people do not train without hearing protection, while most gunfights happen without any, with bigger bangs (if you think your muzzle break is loud, it is nothing compared to the sound of close-range gunfire coming at you, entering on a bang, or a nice frag).

    Team-mates inside rooms while training don't seem overly fond of most muzzle-breaks, but of the ones I have tried (other than suppressors and the A2 variety), the PWS FSC is the least bad. And at the end of the day, if your ability to drill some f**k head with an NSR followed by a headshot saves a team-mates life, he probably won't care how loud your muzzlebreak was.

    In an indoor, team setting, I would prefer to have suppressors on all weapons, which are damn fine muzzle-breaks of themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post

    In an indoor, team setting, I would prefer to have suppressors on all weapons, which are damn fine muzzle-breaks of themselves.
    Well shit Jack, I would prefer an ultraviolet gamma plasma pulse rifle with Predator thermal sight capability, but not everyone can get a suppressor.

    Nick, unless you're doing dynamic entry with three of your closest buddies, just get the PWS FSC556 (get the newest model: Quickcomp). If you don't like it, I'll buy it off you for my Noveske 12.5 build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel View Post
    Well shit Jack, I would prefer an ultraviolet gamma plasma pulse rifle with Predator thermal sight capability, but not everyone can get a suppressor.
    I hear that MagPul is working on one. Of course, the bastards won't tell us the ship date.
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    I was on the fence as well until the guys at PWS sent me a FSC556 QuickComp to try out. It's a great piece of kit. Basically eliminates muzzle rise and the guys next to me in that last class I took didn't seem to mind the minimal blast increase. I'd like to try the Surefire to compare but right now the PWS FSC556 gets my vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demigod View Post
    I honestly think that there's way too much nonsense out there and that 98% of users would be just fine with the A2 or A1 bird cage. Even on SBRs I've found the A2 birdcage to be more than adequate.

    For anything other than competitive uses with the 5.56, brakes are silly rubbish!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    I hear that MagPul is working on one. Of course, the bastards won't tell us the ship date.
    What are you talking about? I already got mine... wait a minute....
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