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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle money bags View Post
    Allow me to quote the latest.

    "Good news! My buddy met with the owner of the shop and the armorer and they agreed to replace of the parts and refund the money. The armorer was very apologetic and said he has since met with another gunsmith to learn more about proper procedures. They're suppose to order parts tomorrow. I'll update everyone once everything is in and the deal has been completed. "

    I am a little concerned that the smith needs to consult another smith to figure out what went wrong, but other than that I think this is the best possible scenario as long as it actually goes down
    The owner and I would like to thank the M4c members who posted here. There is no doubt that it contributed to the resolution.
    Make sure they're the exact same parts, not some "just as good" barrel / FH / gas block.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle money bags View Post
    Allow me to quote the latest.

    "Good news! My buddy met with the owner of the shop and the armorer and they agreed to replace of the parts and refund the money. The armorer was very apologetic and said he has since met with another gunsmith to learn more about proper procedures. They're suppose to order parts tomorrow. I'll update everyone once everything is in and the deal has been completed. "

    I am a little concerned that the smith needs to consult another smith to figure out what went wrong, but other than that I think this is the best possible scenario as long as it actually goes down
    The owner and I would like to thank the M4c members who posted here. There is no doubt that it contributed to the resolution.
    Tell the guy to get his money and parts - or better, money back for everything - and run away. Get a real gunsmith and get the work done right. I'd never let these guys buy replacements for my parts, I like to inspect my own stuff when it comes in, and be able to return it direct to the mfg if it's not right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    Make sure they're the exact same parts, not some "just as good" barrel / FH / gas block.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    Make sure they're the exact same parts, not some "just as good" barrel / FH / gas block.
    Quote Originally Posted by KingsideRook View Post
    Tell the guy to get his money and parts - or better, money back for everything - and run away. Get a real gunsmith and get the work done right. I'd never let these guys buy replacements for my parts, I like to inspect my own stuff when it comes in, and be able to return it direct to the mfg if it's not right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kain View Post
    Beat me to it.
    Noted. I suggested the very same thing.
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    Need advice on salvaging a hack job.

    Quote Originally Posted by TMS951 View Post
    Did the smith leave the barrel nut off or did your friend forget to provide it? Did your friend then okay cutting the gas block?
    Any gunsmith with half a clue would decline doing a perm attach job without all the hardware present because it would obviously cause a problem.
    I get barrels sent to me for perm attach jobs a few times a year without the gas block and barrel nut.
    I won't do the perm attach until I verify with the customer that they might have an assembly order problem.
    Most times, the customer just didn't think it through.
    Sometimes, they are using a YHM bolt-together front sight though.
    In that case, you can put the barrel nut on later and bolt the sight on with no problems.

    A clamp-on gas block would have been a good solution in this case too rather than trying to weld the gas block back together once they realized the problem.
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    Am curious how a clamp on GB would go on over a pinned muzzle device. They don't really spread apart much. Have never tried it, so wondering if this has been done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpom View Post
    Am curious how a clamp on GB would go on over a pinned muzzle device. They don't really spread apart much. Have never tried it, so wondering if this has been done.
    I believe he's referring to the type that completely split into 2 halves & bolt together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryno12 View Post
    I believe he's referring to the type that completely split into 2 halves & bolt together.
    Putting one of those on a BCM barrel would be like putting steel wheels with hubcaps on a Ferrari.
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    Wow that is one ****ed up barrel. Just think that your friend could have sent this to Rainier Arms and they would have done the work right.

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    Got it. Learned something, thanks.

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