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    Quote Originally Posted by mtdawg169 View Post
    Just for the record, I followed the directions to a "T" and still had 3 different guns develop cycling issues due to gumming up. In hindsight, I feel like an idiot for putting that much effort into applying a lubricant.
    Interesting. I still haven't ever had that problem, but if I did, I'd be finished with froglube. I've even given the froglube treatment to a few guns that I don't shoot all that often, and they still look fine. I honestly don't understand why some people have this problem, and some don't? Are you putting any more lube on after the initial treatment? There shouldn't be any lube sitting on the gun that would gum up.
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    with all other lubes, the lubes we grew up with, we know its there and working because when we run our fingers over a lubed area the lube will stick to our fingers and then transfer to our shirt or pants to get wiped off.

    With frog lube, that means you are over lubing. If you follow the instructions and can still pull some lube off with you finger, you need to reheat, let cool for an hour or so and then wipe off ALL excess lube. It will look dry, feel slippery but wont come off on your finger and that is against everything we were taught while using other lubes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewell View Post
    Interesting. I still haven't ever had that problem, but if I did, I'd be finished with froglube. I've even given the froglube treatment to a few guns that I don't shoot all that often, and they still look fine. I honestly don't understand why some people have this problem, and some don't? Are you putting any more lube on after the initial treatment?
    Im no longer using it. But yes, I did add additional Froglube liquid after several hundred rounds, when the BCG started looking dry. I've been told before that I "over applied" it. Maybe I did, but that's no excuse for my lubricant turning into glue. I don't know what happened, except that it did happen. I switched over to Fireclean upon the recommendation of a friend here who sent me about half a bottle to try out. It has worked very well and I've still got that half-used bottle a year later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizz12 View Post
    with all other lubes, the lubes we grew up with, we know its there and working because when we run our fingers over a lubed area the lube will stick to our fingers and then transfer to our shirt or pants to get wiped off.

    With frog lube, that means you are over lubing. If you follow the instructions and can still pull some lube off with you finger, you need to reheat, let cool for an hour or so and then wipe off ALL excess lube. It will look dry, feel slippery but wont come off on your finger and that is against everything we were taught while using other lubes.
    So here's a question. If someone followed that line of thinking, what would they do when the gun got so dirty that it started to malfunction? Normally, you would squirt some lube into the BCG and keep shooting. In order to follow the procedure you describe and maintain minimal frog lube application, you would have to clean the gun and then reapply as described. Otherwise, you would be overlubing according to your theory. Screw that. I don't ever want to have to worry about "too much" lube in an AR. No one has time for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtdawg169 View Post
    Im no longer using it. But yes, I did add additional Froglube liquid after several hundred rounds, when the BCG started looking dry. I've been told before that I "over applied" it. Maybe I did, but that's no excuse for my lubricant turning into glue. I don't know what happened, except that it did happen. I switched over to Fireclean upon the recommendation of a friend here who sent me about half a bottle to try out. It has worked very well and I've still got that half-used bottle a year later.
    yes it is, you over applied and that caused your problems

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtdawg169 View Post
    Im no longer using it. But yes, I did add additional Froglube liquid after several hundred rounds, when the BCG started looking dry. I've been told before that I "over applied" it. Maybe I did, but that's no excuse for my lubricant turning into glue. I don't know what happened, except that it did happen. I switched over to Fireclean upon the recommendation of a friend here who sent me about half a bottle to try out. It has worked very well and I've still got that half-used bottle a year later.
    That would be my guess as to why it gummed up on you. After a few hundred rounds, I retreat using the initial process. I can understand people not wanting to do that every so often, but while you may think it's a hastle, I find it more of a hastle coming back from shooting and having to spend all that time cleaning my gun and lubing it, when with froglube, everything just wipes off in seconds. To each their own I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtdawg169 View Post
    So here's a question. If someone followed that line of thinking, what would they do when the gun got so dirty that it started to malfunction? Normally, you would squirt some lube into the BCG and keep shooting. In order to follow the procedure you describe and maintain minimal frog lube application, you would have to clean the gun and then reapply as described. Otherwise, you would be overlubing according to your theory. Screw that. I don't ever want to have to worry about "too much" lube in an AR. No one has time for that.
    If the FL is properly applied it will never get so dirty that a malfunction will occur because the dirt, dust, carbon, etc... just don't stick and get blown out. Give a regular cleaning after the range and your good to go. I'll shoot a few hundred rounds, go home and clean everything with a micro-fibre cloth or dish towel or pull a few squares of paper towel for a simple wipe down and I don't need any type of cleanser, just the cloth or towel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizz12 View Post
    yes it is, you over applied and that caused your problems
    The fact that it's possible IS the problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jewell View Post
    That would be my guess as to why it gummed up on you. After a few hundred rounds, I retreat using the initial process. I can understand people not wanting to do that every so often, but while you may think it's a hastle, I find it more of a hastle coming back from shooting and having to spend all that time cleaning my gun and lubing it, when with froglube, everything just wipes off in seconds. To each their own I guess.
    Having to clean the gun more often to ensure that I maintain proper lubrication is a trade off I'm not willing to accept and one that no one should. I get the same "wipe off" ability with Fireclean without any concern for a problem developing. The fastidious, clean after every range trip, mentality is borne from hunting rifles and shotguns that would rust if you didn't clean them and re-oil the surfaces before stowing them. An ar, made from aluminum with a chrome lined bore presents no such risk. It doesn't require cleaning that often and using a lube that requires it just so you can relubricate is a step in the wrong direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtdawg169 View Post
    The fact that it's possible IS the problem.

    Having to clean the gun more often to ensure that I maintain proper lubrication is a trade off I'm not willing to accept and one that no one should. I get the same "wipe off" ability with Fireclean without any concern for a problem developing. The fastidious, clean after every range trip, mentality is borne from hunting rifles and shotguns that would rust if you didn't clean them and re-oil the surfaces before stowing them. An ar, made from aluminum with a chrome lined bore presents no such risk. It doesn't require cleaning that often and using a lube that requires it just so you can relubricate is a step in the wrong direction.
    You clean it less with froglube. At least I do. Before I used froglube, I'd clean and re-lube my guns after every range visit. Sure I probably didn't need to, but that's the Marine in me. Anyhow, this would take me quite awhile. With the froglube, when I get back from the range, I just wipe everything down. That saves me time. I have to do that initial treatment again every once in awhile, but that probably still takes less time then actually cleaning them took me before. Use whatever works for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewell View Post
    You clean it less with froglube. At least I do. Before I used froglube, I'd clean and re-lube my guns after every range visit. Sure I probably didn't need to, but that's the Marine in me. Anyhow, this would take me quite awhile. With the froglube, when I get back from the range, I just wipe everything down. That saves me time. I have to do that initial treatment again every once in awhile, but that probably still takes less time then actually cleaning them took me before. Use whatever works for you.
    I agree.

    But cleaning with FL is not a dirty, smelly, mess as it is when cleaning with oil based products. Cleaning and strip cleaning is something I no longer dread, but look forward to doing on a rainy day. I used to dread it with oil based products because of all the cleaning needed after cleaning the guns. I got oil on my clothing, all over the table, worry about dripping on the carpet, on my hands and need to clean the new mess I made and open a window to air out the room. With FL there is no bad odor or clean up after cleaning. It has not hurt my levis, shirts, tables, carpet or anything it got on. Even when its on my hands its not going to get transferred to other objects and leave a mess.

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