Uncapped adjustments are more expensive to build and must have a lock if you for sure don't want them to move. Remember a lot of cheaper scopes aren't even waterproof without the dust caps on. SWAT guys don't want exposed turrets at all because they're not taking shots over 100 yards and don't want to risk inadvertent adjustment.
As far as .1 mill increments, one can only guess why not. Probably because the average guy at that pricepoint doesn't know what a mil is. He knows what an inch is and probably thinks it's the same as MOA and for his purposes it's close enough.
It looks a hell of a lot like Primary Arms 1-6x, except for the logo, turret caps, and ballistic reticle (which only has a few ways it can be done anyway) it's close to exact. If it is just get the PA for $120 less. I'm sure that it would be stated that the internals are all different, just like Hi-Lux's New stated 50,000 hr red dot is different than the PA and Holosun red dots that the only difference is the logos that cost $50-$75 less. Even the nub on the PA 1-6x magnification adjustment is triangular shaped just like the Vortex.
It's starting to feel a lot like 1980's America in the lower priced optic world. It's like how a Crown Vic, Grand Marquis, and Town Car were the same car that could be had with all the options of the others. They could all have power everything, rims, leather, have the same motors available, and the same transmissions. The only difference was the badge and some body work but underneath they were the same exact car. Hopefully they smarten up before they have to start cutting the fat like the big 3 did with Mercury, Oldsmobile, and Plymouth.
Last edited by mastiffhound; 12-10-14 at 19:42.
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It looks a hell of a lot like Primary Arms 1-6x, except for the logo, turret caps, and ballistic reticle (which only has a few ways it can be done anyway) it's close to exact.
Wow! That's uncanny. The specs are nearly identical too. 10.5 inches long, 1/2 MOA clicks, 17+ ounces. People that do business in Asia have told me there's a parking lot you can go to with guys ready to make any scope you want. They'll stamp whatever logo on the side you can come up with and put it in a box. Then you head to the factory and see five different brands coming off the same assembly line. This Vortex looks like they didn't even try to hide what they're doing. I'm beginning to think any import optic with a high price tag is pure image to make you think it's worth the extra dough. If it fails they can replace it for pennies so why not offer an unlimited warranty. Most of them will never see real use anyway so it's a pretty safe bet financially. Then they get sloppy and start pulling stuff like this. I didn't even notice until you pointed it out.
Frankly, I would be happy if they announced the Razor 1-6x would be available in a standard black finish...
If this fixes the notorious "daylight visibility" issues of the PST 1-4x I'm ready to buy. However, considering it's cheaper AND a 1-6x, they had to sacrifice in some areas to get the price lower than the PST line. So I'm left wondering in what areas will the PST 1-4x outperform this.
Are you planning to write up an evaluation, if and when you get one? I'd be interested in what your thoughts would be. I'm not a 3gunner, but would be interested in putting something like this on my daughter's carbine.
It appears to be the same scope as the Primary Arms 1x6. Vortex is just the latest name to change the reticle(for the worse) and slap their brand on it.
It sure looks like it it's very similar. Hopefully it's similar in optic quality to the pst line. That would be a win for sure. If not, why bother, just get a PA.
Are you planning to write up an evaluation, if and when you get one? I'd be interested in what your thoughts would be. I'm not a 3gunner, but would be interested in putting something like this on my daughter's carbine.
I definitely have my hand up asking for an early T&E model. One of their employees posted on facebook that they won't be available until late spring or early summer.
Originally Posted by gman556
I would rather they made it a little better quality for a couple hundred more.
I like this price point but I would also like a $600-700 version as well. Better eye box and glass is always welcome. It would fit in between this and the Razor HD II.
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