Barrier busting in the hood.

[M&P15T]

That totally depends on the situation and your specifics.

Loading up the BOV and hitting the road could lead to you getting stuck in traffic, broken down, roads/passages blocked, attacked, disabled in an accident/collision, or any other number of things. Meanwhile 99% of your supplies are back home, you're running out of gas, it is far too hot (or cold) outside, you have nowhere to go, and your infant/toddler (or more) is having a fit in the backseat.

Besides, if the S really HTF, to the point where you are going to be burned out of your own home, do you really think you will be guaranteed safe and easy passage/escape out of the area and to an unaffected area without the possibility of having to defend yourself/your family on the road (think of all those vehicles and other barriers), at stopping points along the way, or at your destination?

We could counter-argue various imaginary scenarios until the cows come home, but it's all just fantasy. There's no way of knowing what the right approach to take is, until something actually happens. And who knows what that something will be?

[PA PATRIOT]

We could counter-argue various imaginary scenarios until the cows come home, but it's all just fantasy. There's no way of knowing what the right approach to take is, until something actually happens. And who knows what that something will be?

If you live in a major urban city were the demographics are quickly changing then that could be after a incident which incites any offended group. I do have a location to bug out to but that's if I'm able to roll before the roads are jammed. If not then I would have to be able to defend my location until I can either leave or they get tried of trying.

[tim808]

Would a typical group of bg's stick around after taking incoming rifle rounds?
I would reconsider if in their shoes and look for low hanging fruit elsewhere.

[mig1nc]

Would a typical group of bg's stick around after taking incoming rifle rounds?
I would reconsider if in their shoes and look for low hanging fruit elsewhere.

I think that would depend on how desperate they are. If they think you have food and they are starving, then you could be in for a fight. On the plus side, if they think you have food, they probably won't burn it down.

[BuzzinSATX]

After reading the entire thread, with lots of good inputs back and forth, and unless I'm missing something, primary use of said rifle will be to defend home and hearth, with a concern about penetrating cover, then for me, all logical roads lead to an AK47, an AR-10, or even something like a Mossberg MVP in .308. I realize some mentioned weight and maneuverability of a .308 Win, but something like the Mossberg or Ruger SR-556 would give you serious barrier penetration over the other options mentioned in a relatively lightweight and manuverable rifle.

Something to consider with the 300BO or 7.62*39 is when you chop that barrel down, you loose some of that punch you're looking for to take down a cinderblock wall.

[tylerw02]

This thread just went full doomsday prepper retard.


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[Chatterbox]

After reading the entire thread, with lots of good inputs back and forth, and unless I'm missing something, primary use of said rifle will be to defend home and hearth, with a concern about penetrating cover, then for me, all logical roads lead to an AK47, an AR-10, or even something like a Mossberg MVP in .308. I realize some mentioned weight and maneuverability of a .308 Win, but something like the Mossberg or Ruger SR-556 would give you serious barrier penetration over the other options mentioned in a relatively lightweight and manuverable rifle.

Something to consider with the 300BO or 7.62*39 is when you chop that barrel down, you loose some of that punch you're looking for to take down a cinderblock wall.

Another option no one mentioned was getting some bricks of "Southern Thunder" and strategically locating it on/near that cover so that a well placed 5.56 round could take out good chunks of that wall with a little help from the explosion...

Probably there was a reason for that.

[BuzzinSATX]

Sorry, I did not mean to take this thread where it ought not have gone.

[Warp]

I think that would depend on how desperate they are. If they think you have food and they are starving, then you could be in for a fight. On the plus side, if they think you have food, they probably won't burn it down.

Unless they decided they can't take the food, or it's too dangerous, so they throw some firebombs your way out of spite before they totally move on. Maybe then, maybe that night, maybe the next nigth

[MegademiC]

Get a robust bonded or solid copper round, like golddot, fusion, 50 gr. bh tsx or 75gr tsx. Non bonded fmj sucks at everything other than steel helmets.

6.8 is good, as well as 308, but that's a big cost.

I'd love to see performance of a bonded 75/77gr otm.