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    I sold my upper on arfcom, now I have to ship it....

    As I understood it, I could ship an upper receiver (assembly) to an individual in another state, because that is not the "firearm" portion (no serial #, and not governed by ATF).

    Is this true? If so, does anyone know where I can find a federal statement of such?

    Thanks a bunch.

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    An AR upper is not a firearm and you can ship it to anyone in the US with no restrictions.

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    Ron, no CONUS restrictions. You can ship it by any carrier you chose. I find the blueprint shipping tubes are great for uppers and golf clubs.

    Stan
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    Yep, that's my understanding.

    However, the Post Office wants a printed statement by the ATF declaring that.

    Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron S. View Post
    Yep, that's my understanding.

    However, the Post Office wants a printed statement by the ATF declaring that.

    Any ideas?
    Yeah - don't mention it to them. The Post Office just asks if you have anything liquid, fragile or perishable. They also have restrictions on hazardous materials. Uppers are none of the above and none of their business.

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    You don't have to tell them anything. There has been no violation of the law and if they give you a problem just go to a different post office. I've never had to declare to the postal clerk that there was an upper. If they were that nosey, I would tell them that they are golf clubs that I sold on Fleabay. That is just my .02, you really have nothing to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekatar View Post
    Yeah - don't mention it to them. The Post Office just asks if you have anything liquid, fragile or perishable. They also have restrictions on hazardous materials. Uppers are none of the above and none of their business.
    Good point. You're not breaking the law. Box it and ship it. If they ask what is inside, "machine parts". Technically that is true. An AR is a machine and you do not have a complete AR in the box. Insure for the value you would pay to replace it in 24 hours.

    Think about it. . .Would you tell the guy if you were shipping gold coins or diamonds? To me, gun parts shipped legally are the same thing.

    The trouble you ran into is that the word "gun" in all it's forms, draws out the illegal beliefs of all yo yos in a position of power. Frankly, for the time being, the guy at the shipping desk has the power. If he knows you are shipping an Upper and refuses, ask to speak to his manager. If his manager refuses, ask to speak to the postmaster. If he refuses, ask to speak to his manager. A level or 2 up should greet you with someone who knows how to mail something. Don't forget to mention how disrespectful it is to be treated like that.

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    Perhaps next time you should find out the rules before selling something, then you won't have as much to worry about.

    Just send the upper and don't volunteer any information to the post office.

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    Just for fun I usually descibe it as "a calibrated lead dispensing unit"

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    Quote Originally Posted by molsen View Post
    Perhaps next time you should find out the rules before selling something, then you won't have as much to worry about.

    Just send the upper and don't volunteer any information to the post office.
    Oh I knew the rules, as I stated. It's the Post Office that gave me trouble. I knew I could, and when they got hysterical and started looking up rules for firearms, I firmly said to the little old lady, "Look at me. Stop looking for firearms...I'm not trying to ship a firearm."

    Of course, she didn't get it, and the Postmaster was busy and it was 11:58 (closed at noon).

    I'll just mail it.

    Any idea where to get the blueprint tube?

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