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    Eotech EXPS3-0 + G33 Magnifier

    I have been searching for a unicorn for some time, now. A "do it all" optic. While everyone knows such a creature does not exist, I think I have come very close.

    The good:

    The Eotech is the fastest CQB optic I know of. It is a pure "assaulter" optic, and that's what you will see on the guns of those who assault. SEAL teams, SWAT officers, etc. I chose this optic because I do not leave a round in my M4. I leave it cruiser ready. If I can rack a charging handle, I can press a button to turn it on. The Aimpoint is the natural competitor of the Eotech, which is why I raise this. Further, you will likely have to adjust the Aimpoint or Eotech regardless, depending on ambient light, etc.

    The Eotech has "clear" glass without a "tint". At night through the magnifier, this is VERY nice. Aimpoint isn't in the same ballpark, here.

    It is ALL about gross-motor skills. There is no tiny ring, and there is no switch. You knock the magnifier out of the way---and that mount is SOLID. No flop, no rattle, and it is a very very decisive thing to move it from one position to the other.

    The system is "adaptable", for example, if I am out hunting or whatnot, I can run the magnifier. If I have it by my bed, I can take the magnifier off and shed weight.

    The bad:

    It is heavy, about like a quality 1-6X optic + mount, with the magnifier in place.

    It is expensive. Mine cost around $1,000 for the combo (or roughly 1/2 what a 6X optic runs...)

    it only goes to 3X (for my environment, this is PLENTY. When I move, it will be MORE than plenty).

    The Neutral:

    Eye relief is decent. FAR better than a TA31 ACOG, but not quite as good as some of the best 1-6X optics.

    The eyebox is decent. Again, not bad, but not great, either. I found it more tricky than the 1-6X scopes on 1X, but did not really mess with them on 3X, either, so it's hard to directly compare, but I wager it would perform about like a mid-grade 1-6X on 3X. Say, a Vortex, etc.


    Over-all, I feel that the Eotech is one of the best RDS type optics available, and the G33 magnifier really gives it the legs someone might want for a 2-300 yard shot, or better PID, without breaking the bank, and without adding "mandatory" (you can't just cut the weight of a K16i in half when you turn it to 1X) weight or reducing 1X performance.

    Forgive my ghetto "test platform", but my M4 doesn't need to be waggled around my neighborhood...Also, the reticle is centered when mounted on my rifle. Further, if it is NOT, you can adjust the position of the reticle in the magnifier via controls on the magnifier. This does NOT affect zero.



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    Eotech EXPS3-0 + G33 Magnifier

    I'm in the same boat and keep coming back to this option. I prefer the EOTech above all others and really don't need the magnification but I am also just curious to try out a LPV. Did you see that they're releasing a 5x soon?

    ETA - also, how awkward is it with the magnifier pushed off to the side? Does it weigh enough to throw off the balance of the rifle or hang off the side excessively far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    I'm in the same boat and keep coming back to this option. I prefer the EOTech above all others and really don't need the magnification but I am also just curious to try out a LPV. Did you see that they're releasing a 5x soon?


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    I would like to know the cost of 5x regarding fov, eyebox, and eye relief, as well as distortion of reticle potential. Do you have a picture or more data?

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    I went with exps2 and g33 nice but heavy .

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    I would like to know the cost of 5x regarding fov, eyebox, and eye relief, as well as distortion of reticle potential. Do you have a picture or more data?
    Unfortunately, no. I'm wondering all of the same as well as the price. There is a recent thread on it here, with a linked post but all that it mentions is that there is a 5x magnifier to be released in 2015. I'm sure we'll see it at SHOT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    Unfortunately, no. I'm wondering all of the same as well as the price. There is a recent thread on it here, with a linked post but all that it mentions is that there is a 5x magnifier to be released in 2015. I'm sure we'll see it at SHOT.


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    I really kindof like my 3X. I didn't buy this thing to take 600 yard shots. I fear that 5X would narrow the FOV too much for my liking, for this application.

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    Love my Eotech. I wish I purchased the smaller version however.

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    I really like my EoTech. Bought it from Primary Arms in mid-2013 when they were pairing it with one of their multipliers. Not the higher end like the G33, but does fine by me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    I'm in the same boat and keep coming back to this option. I prefer the EOTech above all others and really don't need the magnification but I am also just curious to try out a LPV. Did you see that they're releasing a 5x soon?

    ETA - also, how awkward is it with the magnifier pushed off to the side? Does it weigh enough to throw off the balance of the rifle or hang off the side excessively far?

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    I just recently picked up the same set up. I haven't gotten it to the range yet, but have just messed with it a bit. I heard it could be awkward but I think it may depend on the overall weight of the rifle you have it on. Mine has a SOCOM barrel, a Gieselle MK2 and a STR stock, so its heavy. I notice a little weight off to the side when its switched, but its nothing crazy.

    I went between this and a 1-4 or 1-6 for a while and finally concluded that this was the way to go for me for a number of reasons. Pretty much every 1-4 or 1-6 in my price range had some disadvantage that kept me away. If I had $2500 to spend I may have reached a different conclusion, but I don't. I have to use an Eotech at work so throwing a G33 behind one keeps things consistent, but allows me to mess around with a little magnification at the range, which only goes to 100 yards. I also live in a small city that doesn't have a lot of long lines of sight, so if I ever really did have to use my rifle I wouldn't likely need magnification immediately. I can just leave the G33 off and forget about its weight. I also really like the Eotech reticle. I bought both on EEs so in the end it came in at about $817 for the EXPS2 and G33. Obviously, your needs and resources may be totally different though.

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    TF82 ....above
    That's what I was thinking .

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