Found 2 old AR pre-ban uppers that won’t fit any of my lowers

[ramairthree]

I bought mine a few years old/used back around '84.
It appears to have a better fit.

The non-standard parts, Colt's lack of attention for the non-contract buyer, etc. for decades have left a bad taste in my mouth.

I know they have their fans now, and many will only buy a new Colt,
but they have not been the greatest company to the consumer in their history.

[scottryan]

That gap is normal.

[Ed L.]

Thanks, guys. Hopefully I will shoot it within the next week or three.

[SteyrAUG]

OK, as promised.

My Colt SP1 Carbine.



My Colt Government Model.



My Colt HBar (upper replaced by Colt under warranty about 10 years after purchase)



My SP1 triangle handguards (yikes I never noticed that gap before this thread).

[ClassIIIGunsmith]

Look at II and IV the gap is larger on them. The gap is 100% normal. The reason being that they were completely hand fabricated on a lath and mill which can cause alot of error. If you dont belevive me then look at the inside and you will see all the marring from the drilling. Back then everybody was selling whole guns which made them look like they fitted better because they were (like LaRu 1911's) so unless you want to hunt down them lowers (almost impossible) because during the AWB of the 90's many people striped guns apart for the parts. And when 2004 the light shined and me and many others bought all the SP1 lowers using all that money I made off selling 8 AKMs in 1999 for the 2k event (still waiting). So what Im saying is its next to impossibe. O' and how did it shoot?

[Ed L.]

Thanks guys. I am no longer concerned about the gap after seeing and reading all of the info here.

[Ed L.]

Okay, an update to an old thread.

I have decided I am interested in selling the HBAR upper from a Colt AR15A2. It has a larger pivot pin size so it will not fit on currently made ARs. I think it takes a .315 pivot pin. I am wondering what would be a fair price to sell this upper. I don't know if it has been fired, but it has some cosmetic blemishes from being stored:






I will try to take some better pictures tomorrow.

thanks

[Iraqgunz]

Correct it is a .315.

Okay, an update to an old thread.

I have decided I am interested in selling the HBAR upper from a Colt AR15A2. It has a larger pivot pin size so it will not fit on currently made ARs. I think it takes a .315 pivot pin. I am wondering what would be a fair price to sell this upper. I don't know if it has been fired, but it has some cosmetic blemishes from being stored:






I will try to take some better pictures tomorrow.

thanks

[Renegade04]

Okay, an update to an old thread.

I have decided I am interested in selling the HBAR upper from a Colt AR15A2. It has a larger pivot pin size so it will not fit on currently made ARs. I think it takes a .315 pivot pin. I am wondering what would be a fair price to sell this upper. I don't know if it has been fired, but it has some cosmetic blemishes from being stored:






I will try to take some better pictures tomorrow.

thanks

These will work fine on new lowers (.250" pivot pin diameter) with the use of an adapter bushing (.315"-.250"). I use on a Model 602 clone I did using a Colt SP1 upper and a Nodak lower.

[ClassIIIGunsmith]

Okay, an update to an old thread.

I have decided I am interested in selling the HBAR upper from a Colt AR15A2. It has a larger pivot pin size so it will not fit on currently made ARs. I think it takes a .315 pivot pin. I am wondering what would be a fair price to sell this upper. I don't know if it has been fired, but it has some cosmetic blemishes from being stored:






I will try to take some better pictures tomorrow.

thanks

If your selling just the upper then you're looking at $300 on a good day. Because not many people need a .315 diameter upper for a lower of same size. Also it's not a A1 upper which is what people want to do retro/original (I call it ROs) like Renagade04. And then there are people like me who think Colt died in the mid-80's and don't want to touch post '85 stuff. I've seen them sell for as low as $260 at a pawnshop near my house. Good luck with whatever you do with it.