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Thread: SIG Brace Declared Illegal to Shoulder By The ATF

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISiman/oh View Post
    I agree, I was under the understanding that anything that could be shouldered or appeared to have a stock with a barrel under 16" has to be registered as a SBR.


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    Just about anything can be shouldered, therefore the whole affair is silly.

    Pretty soon there will be an ATF ruling that putting two hands on a pistol is counter to the definition.
    Gun Control Act Definitions
    Pistol
    18 U.S.C., § 921(A)(29) and 27 CFR § 478.11

    The term “Pistol” means a weapon originally designed, made, and intended to fire a projectile (bullet) from one or more barrels when held in one hand, and having:

    a chamber(s) as an integral part(s) of, or permanently aligned with, the bore(s);

    and a short stock designed to be gripped by one hand at an angle to and extending below the line of the bore(s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    Just about anything can be shouldered, therefore the whole affair is silly.

    after all your arm is connected to your shoulder. I am just waiting for the ATF to release their opinion that all arms are now stocks and therefore all pistols must be registered as SBR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    Just about anything can be shouldered, therefore the whole affair is silly.

    Pretty soon there will be an ATF ruling that putting two hands on a pistol is counter to the definition.
    Don't give them anymore ideas! But yes I can see why you say that.
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    For the most part, the 1934 NFA is ridiculous at best. Initially they wanted it to be much broader, including hand guns, etc. Their reasons for the whole thing really doesn't make any real sense at all.

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    Basically what F2S said - anything can be shouldered...does that make that item NFA instantly?

    The fact of the matter is that the ATF has two many opinions and not enough actions. When they start prosecuting people for it then we can talk, until then that letter is intended for the person it was written for and until they make a widely publicized law, I do not see anything changing.

    For those that think this letter means anything, every single person you have seen "shouldering" the brace in pictures and videos - are they felons now? It's shortsighted and contradictory at best.

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    Funny to sit back and watch the show...

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    someone posted this on arf



    Trump the trump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voodoo_Man View Post
    someone posted this on arf



    Trump the trump?
    Link to the op of this letter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JulyAZ View Post
    Link to the op of this letter?
    search arf, its in every thread about the topic.

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    That's the older letter from the last chief. The new letter is from the new acting chief.

    Politics at work.

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