aimpoint 3x or eotech g33? why?

[WS6]

The POI doesn't change, but the POA of your RDS/HDS does (as viewed through the magnifier) depending on how well aligned the magnifier and RDS/HDS are. This is why magnifiers have adjustments on them to re-center the RDS/HDS reticle. Without centering the RDS/HDS reticle in the magnifier's view the gun isn't really aiming where you think it is.

This is not what my Eotech's manual says (I bought the G33). It says that the dot position does not matter, but is "aesthetic" only.

[vicious_cb]

The POI doesn't change, but the POA of your RDS/HDS does (as viewed through the magnifier) depending on how well aligned the magnifier and RDS/HDS are. This is why magnifiers have adjustments on them to re-center the RDS/HDS reticle. Without centering the RDS/HDS reticle in the magnifier's view the gun isn't really aiming where you think it is.

This is correct, I tend to mix up POI and POA sometimes. But yes, the way you perceive the dot magnified vs magnified will cause you to have a different POA when you switch between the two.

[TF82]

I don't know, if I aim my Eotech on a fine point and then flip over the magnifier it stays at the same point of aim. If I move the azimuth and not the rifle it moves the entire image in the sight but the dot stays on the same fine point. If I flip the magnifier back away the dot is still in the same place.

[Ledanek]

Can't comment on Eotech, since I've never considered them, but, if job is not going to reimburse you, consider going thru Equipment Exchange.
Whatever you decide, read this:
Getting the 3x Magnifier closer to the Aimpoint Micro T1

No regret getting the Aimpoint H1+3x mag

Go luck

[Plasman]

I don't know, if I aim my Eotech on a fine point and then flip over the magnifier it stays at the same point of aim. If I move the azimuth and not the rifle it moves the entire image in the sight but the dot stays on the same fine point. If I flip the magnifier back away the dot is still in the same place.

Is your HDS level with your magnifier? If so, then you shouldn't have much/any shift. If they're not level with each other though (such as using an EOTech 55x series sight with FTS magnifier or Aimpoint micro 1/3 co-witness mount with FTS magnifier) then the dot won't be centered in the magifier's view (and won't look that way when viewing through the magnifier either), and the POA as viewed through the magnifier won't be the POI.

Whatever you decide, read this:
Getting the 3x Magnifier closer to the Aimpoint Micro T1

I flip the LT mount around so that the lever is on the left side of the gun to get the magnifier as close as possible.

[WS6]

Is your HDS level with your magnifier? If so, then you shouldn't have much/any shift. If they're not level with each other though (such as using an EOTech 55x series sight with FTS magnifier or Aimpoint micro 1/3 co-witness mount with FTS magnifier) then the dot won't be centered in the magifier's view (and won't look that way when viewing through the magnifier either), and the POA as viewed through the magnifier won't be the POI.




I flip the LT mount around so that the lever is on the left side of the gun to get the magnifier as close as possible.

It doesn't matter. Centering the dot is cosmetic only. If you can see the dot. It's on target (within of course the regular parallax diffusion, you know these all have parallax even un-magnified, to an extent).

[wirides]

Just curious where the Vortex magnifier fits in. The reviews and warranty are outstanding and the cost is sure attractive.

[TF82]

It doesn't matter. Centering the dot is cosmetic only. If you can see the dot. It's on target (within of course the regular parallax diffusion, you know these all have parallax even un-magnified, to an extent).

That's the impression I was under.

[Wake27]

It doesn't matter. Centering the dot is cosmetic only. If you can see the dot. It's on target (within of course the regular parallax diffusion, you know these all have parallax even un-magnified, to an extent).

That's the impression I was under.

That's the impression I've always been under for EOTechs without a magnifier. Don't know why adding one would make it any different.

[Tbat]

Just curious where the Vortex magnifier fits in. The reviews and warranty are outstanding and the cost is sure attractive.

In a side by side comparison in the store, I felt that the Vortex VMX-3T magnifier had a slightly longer eye relief when compared to the Eotech G33 (the specs for both say 2.2 inches but I thought the Vortex had the greater eye relief). They had no Aimpoint version to compare, so I cannot comment on it. I also feel that the Vortex glass was just as clear and bright as the Eotech magnifier if not a little more so. It also felt like the viewing area of the Vortex was slightly bigger than the Eotech. Like the Eotech magnifer, the Vortex also allows you to adjust the magnifier so your reticle appears in the center of your view.

The Vortex is perhaps not as rugged as the Eotech but it seems quite durable and may very well be rugged enough to get the job done. I don't believe that the Vortex has the same underwater rating of either the Eotech or Aimpoint. The Vortex comes with a decent mount but I prefer the Eotech flip to side mount which does not require you to manipulate a button. You can get a decent flip to side mount for the Vortex, that doesn't require you to manipulate a button, and still come in under the price of the Eotech magnifier.

I don't use mine for work or war, but I would not be scared to rely on it if needed. I went with the Vortex for about half the price of the Eotech magnifier, as I was unsure if I would like to use the magnifer. With that said, I do think that the Vortex magnifier is a capable piece of equipment and I have had no problems with mine. I have since purchased a second Vortex magnifier to go behind another Eotech.