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Thread: Changes to New Noveske Gen III Rifles

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    I doubt Noveske even uses the tensioning screws. Their uppers and lowers should fit without undue "wiggle" just fine, considering they now machine both in house, I believe. Manufacturers that I know who use them simply back them out and leave them there "as an easter-egg" for the above listed reason. Don't fiddle with other uppers? Leave it be. Do? Leave it be or use it. Your call.
    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    I bet their tolerances are tighter than ever. You meant to say CLEARANCES, I believe. However, I am thinking they are probably dead-on within mil-spec, with the very tight tolerances that CNC allows, and that Noveske does what others do and just backs the tensioning screw all the way off, because the upper and lower CNC'ed in the same "house" should in no-way need a tensioning screw to not flop around. It's there for mix/match/lower-only sales (and why have 2 lowers, one for individual sale, one for complete rifles?)
    The tensioning screw in my rifle is not backed out. It is making contact with the upper's lug. I don't know if it's actually doing anything though. I haven't backed it out yet to see. But I will tomorrow after my range trip. Either way, I'm not too concerned.

    One thing that I did also notice when mounting my scope to this new rifle is that on my other Noveske, the Bobro mount digs into the rail due to the added thickness from the cerakote. On this new one, it doesn't happen. So there is slightly more clearance between the lugs of the rail. Either they changed their coating as well, or they changed the dimensions of the rail ever so slightly. Or just variations in the finish process.
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    I'd still like one, but I think it's interesting that other companies are viewed negatively for the tension screw and/or billet.

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    I just got back from the range and this gun shoots great. Much more accurate than my other one. But then again, this one has the stainless barrel with polygonal rifling. I'm not the best shot because I'm relatively new to shooting AR15s. But all my 10-shot groups were around 1.5-1.75 MOA @ 100 yards, with Black Hills 77gr OTM. I got a few sub-MOA groups as well. But those were only three shots each, so don't really count. I did also swap out the stock trigger for a Wilson Combat TTU M2 when I got the rifle.

    I haven't gotten around to cleaning it yet. And when I do, I'll check that tensioning screw to see if it's actually making the receiver-fit tighter or not. Will post back tomorrow.

    I also noticed the finish on the hand guard is different compared to my other rifle. The other one has a slight textured finish that is darker. It is "black." The finish on the new rifle's hand guard is not "black." It matches the finish on the receivers. And it's smooth, not textured.

    All of this stuff is minor. Just things I'm noticing. And thought it was interesting, considering the rifles were both built 8 months apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JG007 View Post
    I'd still like one, but I think it's interesting that other companies are viewed negatively for the tension screw and/or billet.
    I too was surprised with the tensioning screw. Adds a point of failure and a feature not needed on serious use rifles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singlestack Wonder View Post
    I too was surprised with the tensioning screw. Adds a point of failure and a feature not needed on serious use rifles.
    I strongly disagree.

    What failure point does it offer, realistically?

    While not needed, what utility does it REMOVE?

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    I feel like they may have loosened tolerances on the lower to make it more "compatible" with various uppers and added the tension screw to snug it up to the users's preference.

    How many years have we all read threads related to some dude's "new Noveske lower had to be hammered onto their upper"?


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    For anybody interested, here are my best targets from this rifle's first trip to the range. All shots @ 100 yards with Black Hills 77gr OTM, used a front beanbag perch thing to prop the rifle up.

    Best group. Not sure how big it is. Each square is 1/4", so it looks to be sub-MOA I guess.






    This was my first target from sighting in my scope. Each square here is 1/2"







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    Looks to be a nice shooter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    I strongly disagree.

    What failure point does it offer, realistically?

    While not needed, what utility does it REMOVE?
    If the tip breaks off (or the nylon tip split and come loose) the trigger mechanism could be compromised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singlestack Wonder View Post
    If the tip breaks off (or the nylon tip split and come loose) the trigger mechanism could be compromised.
    If you back it off like noveske should be doing that's a non issue. However...this allows the end user to determine that risk. You don't have to use it.

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