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Thread: Which can for 11.5" SBR?

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    It was one persons opinion that it's only for fun and not for serious use.

    The Saker has a different more durable design baffle stack that is rated for a 7.5" barrel and full auto fire. Objectively it is more durable than the Specwar. However, if your not doing mag dumps and shooting at a normal rate of fire the Specwar will likely outlast your barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    What is the logic with this? I don't mean to sound insulting, but I just do not get it.

    Someone can buy a quality suppressor right now, and have it in their hands by April. Waiting til SHOT requires another 3 weeks just to see what is being released. Then, depending on the company, 9 more months to over a year for the new suppressor to ship to dealers. By then you have the 41P issue to worry about, not to mention being some company's beta tester, and you still have unpredictable NFA wait times that could have shot up to another year by then.

    Waiting until SHOT makes sense for people with a big collection already, but for those with a few cans or those completely new it is mind boggling. Every single December/January people say "Wait for SHOT", and then every single May/June people flood the boards with "Any idea when the SR5/Saker/SDN6/TiRant/Octane9HD2 are shipping?"
    I understand what your saying and I am in no way insulted.

    A year or two ago I was looking for a 762 can and I went with SDN6. The SDN6 is a good can and I like its durability and qd system. A month after I got it, silencerco came out with the Saker 762 which IMHO is an unbelievable deal. The ability to use several mounts for QD including AAC's, best in class materials, and the ability to throw the 556 end cap on on it that makes it quieter shooting 556 then their saker 556. If you want durability and quite, which are at the top of my list, the saker 762 is hard to beat.

    Moral of the story; I was not in a rush to get the SDN6 and I should have waited. Its three weeks away, there is a good chance something may happen and also a good chance nothing eventful will come from it. I learned my lesson, I can wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKGuns View Post
    Still looking for an answer as to why the SpecWar is for recreational use only........Since I've decided on that model I'd really like to understand that comment.
    I disagree with JG007's statement. From a durability standpoint they should be about the same and the Specwar is built like a tank. All things being equal, the Specwar will be a little bit quieter because its longer length. The Specwar is an excelent can with its limitation being the mount.

    The advantage the Saker has, is it excels at versatility. It is a little bit lighter and little bit shorter than the Specwar. It can support all kinds of QD mounts, plus direct threads. It can mount on anything from a precision bolt rifle to an SBR. Its Slinecerco's top of the line can and you pay for those added features. If you don't need them, save yourself a few hundred bucks and get the Specwar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themonk View Post
    I understand what your saying and I am in no way insulted.

    A year or two ago I was looking for a 762 can and I went with SDN6. The SDN6 is a good can and I like its durability and qd system. A month after I got it, silencerco came out with the Saker 762 which IMHO is an unbelievable deal. The ability to use several mounts for QD including AAC's, best in class materials, and the ability to throw the 556 end cap on on it that makes it quieter shooting 556 then their saker 556. If you want durability and quite, which are at the top of my list, the saker 762 is hard to beat.

    Moral of the story; I was not in a rush to get the SDN6 and I should have waited. Its three weeks away, there is a good chance something may happen and also a good chance nothing eventful will come from it. I learned my lesson, I can wait.
    I was going to purchase an sdn-6 last year, but for various reason$ did not. About a month ago I got ready to finally make the purchase and saw the Saker, so I went that way. If I had purchased the AAC last year, I'd be completely happy with my choice, and if Shot produces the new "cool kid" can this year, I doubt I'll loose any sleep over it. Besides, I'll be 2 months into the process by shot...

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    On the one hand maybe I shouldn't have given an opinion without having a ton of data, but on the other hand,

    Objectively, as mentioned, the saker is rated for more heavy duty use, particularly barrel length.

    Subjectively, since I had narrowed my choices down to these two with SF being #3, while doing my research one large volume dealer that appeared knowledgeable (I over research everything, part of the thrill of the hunt) told me the same. I wasn't given a ton of specifics, but I don't believe there really were any. Unlike a lot of comparisons that involve weaknesses of one product, my conclusion was that there was no issues at all with the specwar and it's good to go, but just that the saker took things to another level of toughness compared to its competitors.

    My mistake for phrasing it in duty vs non duty terms, maybe I should have said duty vs super/heavy duty......?

    I'm just finally getting to put mine through some shooting on my sbr, I'd like to put a thousand or so through it before I give personal feedback, I was surprised that unlike guns, "suppressor A vs suppressor B" info was hard to get

    Quote Originally Posted by HKGuns View Post
    Still looking for an answer as to why the SpecWar is for recreational use only........Since I've decided on that model I'd really like to understand that comment.

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    $820 vs $550 at silencershop

    I was initially leaning towards the specwar being a touch quieter and possibly (?) less back pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by kymudder08 View Post
    I'm waiting too. I'm getting it regardless, but other than how it mounts being different, the interchangeable front, and the slight length/weight difference I don't see a quality difference. I feel like it's impossible to get the perfect can that's shorter/lighter and still be really quiet. Seems like unless you spend over a grand you can't have your cake and eat it too. This is gonna be my first can (waiting for taxes) so I don't wanna drop a grand on ONE item that has to sit at my dealer for months after I pay for it. Luckily though, he's a good friend and will bring it over and let me play with it while I wait lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kymudder08 View Post
    I'm more concerned with length and weight than decibels. So long as it hearing safe I'll be happy.
    If the length/weight are the more deciding factors, you're best served with the SpecWar K over the standard Specwar.
    Specwar K: 13.7oz, 6.2", $524
    Specwar: 19.6oz, 7.3", $550 (I see you are in KY; these prices are pulled from SilencerShop here in TX)

    I have the specwar on my 11.5" and you definitely notice the weight in front when you start to use it; you'll get used to it though

    I'd still advise hearing protection on an 11.5"

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    Quote Originally Posted by themonk View Post
    The Specwar is an excelent can with its limitation being the mount.
    How do you consider the Specwar mounts to be limiting?
    To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society. --Theodore Roosevelt--

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXBK View Post
    How do you consider the Specwar mounts to be limiting?
    Only in comparison to the saker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXBK View Post
    How do you consider the Specwar mounts to be limiting?
    They seem more similar, than different, but it seems like folks asking questions of the Silencer Shop are being sold the more expensive one.

    - SpecWar 5.56 is 19.5 oz / 7.3" (-130.2) with an option to go smaller with the "K" model at 13.7 oz /6.20" (-133.6db)
    - Saker 5.56 is 18 oz / 6.76"(-132.2db) with an option to go smaller with the "K" model at 14.7 oz / 5.80" (-136.6db)
    - Both Full Auto rated
    - Both ship with Trifecta muzzle device
    - Both have baffles made of Stellite vs. Iconel
    - Both have Lifetime Warranties
    - SpecWar is quieter
    - Saker costs more

    Sure would be nice if someone here owned or used both and could comment on POI shift and blow back as those are the only two areas where the Saker could best the SpecWar other than if you need some funky mount for the Saker.......

    I initially decided on the SpecWar because of my excellent experience owning the SWR Octane45HD that is extremely quiet on all of my 9mm and 45ACP hosts. Very quiet when using subsonic ammo and is built like a tank.

    I've posted this before, but here it is again. I'm not a video artist or youtuber, so excuse the amateur video.



    Color me puzzled.
    Last edited by HKGuns; 01-10-15 at 21:28.

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