Simple and Inexpensive Alternative To KAK/Thorsden/CAA set up?

[jet66]

If your purpose is to shoot with cheekweld, why would you want it longer than the stock Thordsen length? As it is my cheekbone is at the very front of the saddle when I shoot with my nose about 1" from the CH. I've actually considered modding one to move the saddle a little forward.

I like to be about the same distance from the CH, too. I was afraid the cheek weld with the Sig brace was going to be too far forward on mine (standard BCM pistol RE, no spacers) but it turned out to be just right for me.

[Renegade04]

if it's going on a rifle, no. if it's going on a pistol, i believe it's an issue. you're putting a stock on a pistol, even though it's been modified.

This would be correct. What the Nightvisionary is proposing is to take something that is designed and built as a stock and modify it to work as a cheekweld for a pistol is illegal. Like one suggested, he would be better served by using a rifle RE with a foam pad or, better yet, just do it right and spend the money for the Thordsen CAA saddle adapter kit and the CAA Saddle. Things are bad enough with the SB15 issue these days and doing something like the Nightvisionary is proposing to do will only exasperate things. My recommendation is to do it right and do it legally.

[U&A]

I'd say that altering a stock wouldn't be legal, as you're just modifying something that is designed, manufactured and intended to be used as a shoulder stock.

(If its going on a "pistol" )

hit the nail on the head.

The ATF is ALL about "intent".

if it was "intended" to be a stock from the beginning it will probably be considered a stock no matter what modifications in their mind. it is the same for the SB15. it was not "intended" as a stock and not "intended" to be shouldered so it is not breaking any SBR laws regardless of how it is used while firing. In my opinion, if you try to modify a "stock" to fix it on a pistol you are pushing the line to hard.

A good way to think about it is if you think it is legal than you should have no problem sending a letter to the BTAF and see what kind of response you get.

[steyrman13]

(If its going on a "pistol" )

A good way to think about it is if you think it is legal than you should have no problem sending a letter to the BTAF and see what kind of response you get.

PLEASE DON'T!!! they have too much attention on Pistols right now as it stands.

[U&A]

PLEASE DON'T!!! they have too much attention on Pistols right now as it stands.

it is a hypothetical. should have clarified that better. I said a good way to "think" about it. meaning, if I sent one what do I think I would get for a response. thanks for saying that thought. you are right. Don't send them a letter.

[jurassic]

PM me I have a Thordsen setup I'll let go cheap, better than going to jail. I'm done with all the pistol-SBR BS. It's all going away, I'll be buying a stamp for an SBR shortly.

[Chunky_Lover]

sicne the arm brace has received yet another atf letter making sure to say you can not shoulder it

and so many people now selling them cheap

pick one up, cut away the rubber flaps and use it as a copy of the thordson
its similar shape and put your face on it
and I would think that shape, and if you can press it up closer or cut the front a little
keep 1/4 inch buffer tube sticking out the rear its no where being close to a stock as the buffer tube is exposed
but good enough to lay your face on it
the all rubber is quite comfortable depending on how long the tube is or how close your used to being

although I have not yet done this as I want to see what happens later with all these future atf letters if you could pick one up pretty cheap it may make a nice cover