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    Quote Originally Posted by domestique View Post
    It would make sense that they use a 16".

    SiCo claimed 126 on the Saker, but it metered 128.8 when Silencershop tested it on their 12".

    I personally would rather see the actual sound reduction from companies (unsuppressed then suppressed) and (mil standard 1 meter and at shooter's ear).
    A few fluctuation in DB is not a big deal, imo.

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    I don't disagree it would make more sense for that to be the results just figured they used the hosts shown in the video. Either way like mentioned, the results are great overall and the weight is just hard to pass up.

    Quote Originally Posted by domestique View Post
    It would make sense that they use a 16".


    SiCo claimed 126 on the Saker, but it metered 128.8 when Silencershop tested it on their 12".

    I personally would rather see the actual sound reduction from companies (unsuppressed then suppressed) and (mil standard 1 meter and at shooter's ear).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrvip27 View Post
    A few fluctuation in DB is not a big deal, imo.
    ditto, that's why I'm not tearing off my clothes and pulling out my hair for having bought the Saker. Anything below 130 is backyard safe when it comes to the neighbors, and the added durability/modularity of the Saker benefits me more then the weight savings of the Omega, IMHO.

    I may still pick an Omega up eventually, but will wait and see if the rumored Saker 762 K releases this summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imDementeD View Post
    I thought Silencerco used the 8" barreled AR in the video for the 119db? Seems a bit misleading to show a SBR shooting the can with 119db and not be the host weapon. I know Nick said he was going to find out what the host was but don't recall seeing him saying? Either way, the weight with the suppression is easily worth it imo.
    I did say rumor, but i'll try and dig up where I read that since you bring it up.

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    http://nfatalk.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11908

    Post #17, the user says SiCo rep said 16" barrel, 220gr subsonic, 10rd avg. of 119.5dB. The rep did not have original test data for max dB or first round pop.

    Quote Originally Posted by ScatmanCrothers View Post
    A limited time frame? Every so often there is going to be a lighter, smaller, more effective means of suppressing a rifle that comes to market. You can buy into all the "lifetime investment" hype but that doesn't mean you can't upgrade when you want or every year if you want to. We're talking about a roughly 800 to 1200 dollar range of purchase here, not exactly a house or a car. Yes it's important to buy what you think is the best available option but the same thing goes for rifles. Kind of like going all in on Noveske only to have Hodge catch your eye in a more meaningful way and forces your hand to switch allegiances. That doesn't make your Noveske, or a Saker purchase for that matter, inadequate or incapable of fulfilling your needs when actually used. It might kill some accumulated cool guy e-cred a tad but really, how far is that going to go anyway?

    And as far as the mounts go, they are both viable options. They will both keep your suppressor on your rifle and neither of them are going to fail when it matters. I get some folks wanting all of their cans and mounts to work universally but this is the world we live in. Shit happens and we work around it. Silencerco made a decision on the mount to use for the Omega and we have to live with it. Whether that was based on which was more financially feasible or which one works better it was their decision to make and either one is a good decision. Maybe the statement by the Silencerco rep shared here was his opinion or a common company line of thinking, who knows. It's irrelevant. Their other already highly praised 7.62 can already uses a Saker trifecta mount so why not go with the ASR on this one to give a 7.62 option to owners of some of their other cans using ASR mounts? I know some Specwar 762 owners that are pumped about the Omega as an additional option. If it bothers someone enough, don't buy it. If the slightly lighter weight and almost guaranteed unnoticeable db reduction between the Omega and Saker is more important, then buy it. If someone wants both cans then pony up for both mounts.

    I don't see how companies in this market put up with so much nitpicky bullshit. It's just another new can with new options. Not the endgame or the Great Obsoleter.
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    Another interesting data point:

    Silencerco's ammo (which was 1 piece of the Omega's claimed 119 db puzzle) is claimed to be 3-4 dB quieter then other ammo.

    *it also states a 16" barrel used, which leads me further to believe they used a 16" for Omega testing.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/com.silence...Whitepaper.pdf

    I'd be willing to wager the Omega (with another brands ammo) will meter around 123-126 on any given day (end cap used, testing environment, testing procedure, equipment used etc. )

    Still impressive, and still quieter then the Saker, but at more believable sound levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domestique View Post
    Another interesting data point:

    Silencerco's ammo (which was 1 piece of the Omega's claimed 119 db puzzle) is claimed to be 3-4 dB quieter then other ammo.

    *it also states a 16" barrel used, which leads me further to believe they used a 16" for Omega testing.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/com.silence...Whitepaper.pdf

    I'd be willing to wager the Omega (with another brands ammo) will meter around 123-126 on any given day (end cap used, testing environment, testing procedure, equipment used etc. )

    Still impressive, and still quieter then the Saker, but at more believable sound levels.
    At less weight mind you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrvip27 View Post
    At less weight mind you.
    For sure! ....... at the cost of durability.

    I would love to see a third party shoot off between all 4 SiCo cans on the same day, same ammo, etc. (Harvester, Omega, Specwar and Saker).



    Edit to add: would love to know what SiCo's blackout recipe is... I would have assumed they were using 1680 like most other sub loads.
    Last edited by domestique; 01-24-15 at 02:06.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domestique View Post
    For sure! ....... at the cost of durability.

    I would love to see a third party shoot off between all 4 SiCo cans on the same day, same ammo, etc. (Harvester, Omega, Specwar and Saker).



    Edit to add: would love to know what SiCo's blackout recipe is... I would have assumed they were using 1680 like most other sub loads.
    Yes agreed. But it is also full auto rated....and unless you are going below the .308 and .556 barrel length requirement, I don't see a reason NOT to get an Omega. My .02. Especially when its rated for 8" 300blk super/subs. Covers my guns that I own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrvip27 View Post
    Yes agreed. But it is also full auto rated....and unless you are going below the .308 and .556 barrel length requirement, I don't see a reason NOT to get an Omega. My .02. Especially when its rated for 8" 300blk super/subs. Covers my guns that I own.
    Most definitely. I wouldn't discourage anyone from going Omega if it fits their needs. If I wasn't already set up with Trifecta mounts and own Sakers it would be a tough choice for me based on my guns/usage.
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    i know this doesn't include the Omega..but figured it was worth posting.

    This guy does quite a few vids with different rounds...This one in particular is 300 blackout...Its the Specwar Saker 7.62 Harvester 762 and Osprey 45...honestly in the vid its hard to tell any noticeable difference..Since i am going for mainly 300 blackout I think the Omega is the obvious choice...Like said though i do want to see the difference between direct thread and the asr weight wise and sound wise.

    Basically I want the DB/Weight of the can used as Direct thread without the brake at the end. Then see Weight/DB with the asr and brake...and possibly with asr and no brake...See where the happy medium is with this can for 300 blackout(which is what my primary use will be)

    Anyway here's the video, he has more doing same test different calibers.
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