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    Would there be any reason the Omega would NOT be safe using 300BLK Subsonic ONLY on a barrel under 8 inches? Sig stated that they plan on releasing the new MCX with a 300BLK 6.75" barrel option and I've seen videos of it be used suppressed. With 300BLK Subsonic, pressure is not a concern, only bullet stabilization. It has a 1:6 twist rate which would stabilize the bullet just fine.

    From Gemtech:

    "Our guideline for barrel minimum length, is caliber specific - not can specific;
    Minimum barrel length on 308 is 16", for 5.56 it's 10.3".
    For 300BLK SBR's minimum is 1/2" longer than your twist rate - 1in7 = 7.5" - 1in8 = 8.5" - 1in9 =9.5"."
    Last edited by DontCome2MyHouse; 02-08-15 at 19:24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontCome2MyHouse View Post
    Would there be any reason the Omega would NOT be safe using 300BLK Subsonic ONLY on a barrel under 8 inches? Sig stated that they plan on releasing the new MCX with a 300BLK 6.75" barrel option and I've seen videos of it be used suppressed. With 300BLK Subsonic, pressure is not a concern, only bullet stabilization. It has a 1:6 twist rate which would stabilize the bullet just fine.

    From Gemtech:

    "Our guideline for barrel minimum length, is caliber specific - not can specific;
    Minimum barrel length on 308 is 16", for 5.56 it's 10.3".
    For 300BLK SBR's minimum is 1/2" longer than your twist rate - 1in7 = 7.5" - 1in8 = 8.5" - 1in9 =9.5"."
    Probably just a warranty issue. With that fast twist rate I would think it should be fine. I plan on getting a 300 MCX SBR and the Omega is what I am going to get for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by owensww View Post
    Silencershop tested the Omega this week. Here are the averages courtesy of Jeremy.

    5.56x45 134.92
    .300Blk 122.2
    .308Win 141.28
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    http://nfatalk.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11908&page=3

    Edit:
    AVG SOUND LEVEL (Advertised):
    300 BLK – 119.5 dB
    5.56 – 130.1 dB
    308 – 133.9 dB

    Waiting for the SiShop viedeo to see what hosts were used, I think a bolt gun was the .308 host in the SiCo promotional video and we are without official comment on what barrel length was used for .300blk. It looks like the Omega is pretty close to the Saker dB wise.

    Saker Sound Reduction (From Manufacturer):
    5.56 – 134 dB
    .300 BLK Subsonic – 126 dB
    .308 – 139 dB
    Last edited by jerrysimons; 02-10-15 at 18:16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysimons View Post
    User OWENSWW
    http://nfatalk.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11908&page=3

    Edit:
    AVG SOUND LEVEL (Advertised):
    300 BLK – 119.5 dB
    5.56 – 130.1 dB
    308 – 133.9 dB

    Waiting for the SiShop viedeo to see what hosts were used, I think a bolt gun was the .308 host in the SiCo promotional video and we are without official comment on what barrel length was used for .300blk. It looks like the Omega is pretty close to the Saker dB wise.

    Saker Sound Reduction (From Manufacturer):
    5.56 – 134 dB
    .300 BLK Subsonic – 126 dB
    .308 – 139 dB
    Even if those numbers are correct and come close to the Saker, I'd still rather have the Omega due length and weight. I know there is a 3 dB reduction in sound when using the attached Anchor Brake. Lots of factors in sound level measurement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontCome2MyHouse View Post
    Even if those numbers are correct and come close to the Saker, I'd still rather have the Omega due length and weight. I know there is a 3 dB reduction in sound when using the attached Anchor Brake. Lots of factors in sound level measurement.
    Doesn't the ASR mount add both weight & length to the Omega kinda negating those advantages? I know the Saker is rated down to a 12" .308 barrel, the Omega is not. I'm guessing the Saker has a significant advantage in both durability & sound signature and I wouldn't doubt with flash signature as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrioticDisorder View Post
    Doesn't the ASR mount add both weight & length to the Omega kinda negating those advantages? I know the Saker is rated down to a 12" .308 barrel, the Omega is not. I'm guessing the Saker has a significant advantage in both durability & sound signature and I wouldn't doubt with flash signature as well.
    From what I've been reading the 7" length includes the Anchor Brake. Take away that brake and add a flat end cap and you have a 30 caliber suppressor that is about 6" and is is getting very decent numbers. I have no plans of owning a 12" .308 nor would I want to, so it doesn't bother me. If I want to suppress 5.56 shorter than 10" I own the Saker 5.56, but at that point you're sacrificing velocity.

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    Happened to see this in the industry section for silencer shop on arf regarding actual real world testing of the omega. I know the omega data was posted earlier in this thread, but a later post by silencer shop showed the barrel lengths, which makes a huge difference in how the data can be interpreted.

    Omega
    5.56x45 134.92DB on 16"
    .300Blk 122.2DB on 12.5"
    .308Win 141.28DB on 20"

    Saker
    5.56x45 134.1DB on 12.5"
    .300BLK 128.8DB on 9"
    .308 Win 137.9DB on 18"


    Looks like the Omega isn't as quiet as everyone thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippers View Post
    Looks like the Omega isn't as quiet as everyone thought.
    That makes me feel better about my Saker that's in jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippers View Post
    Happened to see this in the industry section for silencer shop on arf regarding actual real world testing of the omega. I know the omega data was posted earlier in this thread, but a later post by silencer shop showed the barrel lengths, which makes a huge difference in how the data can be interpreted.

    Omega
    5.56x45 134.92DB on 16"
    .300Blk 122.2DB on 12.5"
    .308Win 141.28DB on 20"

    Saker
    5.56x45 134.1DB on 12.5"
    .300BLK 128.8DB on 9"
    .308 Win 137.9DB on 18"


    Looks like the Omega isn't as quiet as everyone thought.
    This isn't an apples to apples comparison by any means. Were both tested on the exact same rifle? Using the exact same ammo and sound testing equipment/procedure? Was the wind and air temperature the same? Simply saying "looks like the Omega isn't as quite as everyone thought" doesn't mean a damn thing when two totally different tests were made. Even if the Saker 7.62 is quieter than the Omega.... Look at the specs! The Saker weighs 20 oz (heavier than hell) and is longer! If I wanted the lowest dB possible I'd get the Specwar 7.62, but that thing is longer and heavier still. I'd easily trade a few dB for a titanium can.

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    The testing silencerco did was with their ammo which is about 4db quieter than factory Remington sub sonic (comparing 300 blackout). So like mentioned earlier it should be around 123 with Remington ammo. .so right in line with what i imagined. .. ordered mine Monday. . And ordered a 762sd today (too cheap to pass up). I'll be happy on my blackout sbrs



    Quote Originally Posted by Slippers View Post
    Happened to see this in the industry section for silencer shop on arf regarding actual real world testing of the omega. I know the omega data was posted earlier in this thread, but a later post by silencer shop showed the barrel lengths, which makes a huge difference in how the data can be interpreted.

    Omega
    5.56x45 134.92DB on 16"
    .300Blk 122.2DB on 12.5"
    .308Win 141.28DB on 20"

    Saker
    5.56x45 134.1DB on 12.5"
    .300BLK 128.8DB on 9"
    .308 Win 137.9DB on 18"


    Looks like the Omega isn't as quiet as everyone thought.

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