Ruger American Predator .308, or...

[A2s rule]

Savage Hog Hunter. 20" heavy barrel with iron sights. $430 The stock of course kinda sucks, but so does the Rugers. Ive handled both and I wanted to like the Ruger just cause I think it looks kinda cool, but the Savage hogger was much better

[Bimmer]

Thanks, guys. I'm looking at Savages. Unfortunately, there's hardly any stocking Savage dealers around here, so I'm going to need to order on faith...

[austinN4]

Alternatives?

http://www.mossberg.com/products/rif...ies/mvp-patrol

[Bimmer]

Update: I'm looking for a Savage 10 FCP-SR, with the 20" barrel.

http://www.mossberg.com/products/rif...ies/mvp-patrol

I've seen these, too, but...

1. I'm skeptical of buying a Mossberg bolt gun. Savage has a big following and a long track record.

2. There's little or no aftermarket support for Mossberg's bolt guns... I'm tempted to buy a Rem 700 SPS AAC-SD instead of the Savage, just so that I can easily change it later.

3. The 7.62 Predator has everything I want, except it doesn't have a threaded barrel, and that's a deal breaker for me...

4. The 7.62 "LR" version would be perfect — I'd like an adjustable comb. Problem: it's not actually available yet, and it would cost $80-$100 more than the Savage. Being able to use my M14-type mags would make the Mossberg worth it, but given #s 1-2, above, I think I'll just keep looking for the Savage.

[Bimmer]

I just ordered a Savage 10 FCP-SR (20") from Tooele Shooting Supply. It was less than $620, shipped.

Now I need to pick out a muzzle brake...

[MBtech]

I really do appreciate the guidance. I was oblivious to the Remington and Savage models you pointed out, and though they cost more, they're tempting...

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...t=muzzle+brake

[Bimmer]

Thanks, MBTech.

I've been looking at muzzle brakes for weeks, and AFAIK the most effective are the big Miculek types, and the Miculek itself is only $50 or so, and that's hard to beat.

BTW, I'm not so recoil shy, but I wind up taking a lot of new shooters to the range, and a gun that's easy to shoot is appealing to them...

[MBtech]

Thanks, MBTech.

I've been looking at muzzle brakes for weeks, and AFAIK the most effective are the big Miculek types, and the Miculek itself is only $50 or so, and that's hard to beat.

BTW, I'm not so recoil shy, but I wind up taking a lot of new shooters to the range, and a gun that's easy to shoot is appealing to them...

Should work good for you, I've seen them below $40. I inderstand, my two kids are not into getting shoulders beat up too bad, takes the fun out of it for them.

[Bimmer]

Should work good for you, I've seen them below $40...

That's the 5.56 version. The 7.62 version is $50+

It's not pretty or fancy, but the tests I've seen say the Miculek is as effective as anything out there.

I might play with a linear comp, too, to see if projecting the blast and noise away is better than actually reducing felt recoil. Since the Savage weighs almost 9lbs empty and without a scope, I don't expect recoil to be that bad, anyway...

[MBtech]

That's the 5.56 version. The 7.62 version is $50+

It's not pretty or fancy, but the tests I've seen say the Miculek is as effective as anything out there.

I might play with a linear comp, too, to see if projecting the blast and noise away is better than actually reducing felt recoil. Since the Savage weighs almost 9lbs empty and without a scope, I don't expect recoil to be that bad, anyway...

Nah, that won't be bad at all, I've been wanting to play around with some different brakes myself, for $50 I might have to try one out. The Surefire Socom is pretty nice, it however is the only one I have tried on my 700 AAC SD so I can't really compare it to anything else.